Great job, God_Delusion! Thanks for sharing.
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12 Things the Watchtower does to stop JW's from using Critical Thinking Skills
by God_Delusion inhi guys,.
have you ever wondered how the watchtower bible and tract society keep all the jehovah's witnesses in line?.
it's a simple concept really.
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Are you really an Apostate, according to the WT ?
by Phizzy inperusing the coverage of the 2013 dc spewings about apostates, the wt claims that apostates are "liars" and speak "twisted things".
this is their definition of apostates.. now, the reality is that sites such as paul's excellent jwfacts.com, books like coc and isocf, by ray franz, the works of olaf jonsson, penton and others, all write what is true !.
we are careful on here to present that which is true, at least i hope we are !.
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Jesus was an apostate!
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FAQ - from the official web site "Do You Shun Former Members of Your Religion"?
by therevealer inthose who were baptized as jehovah's witnesses but no longer preach to others, perhaps even drifting away from association with fellow believers, are not shunned.
in fact, we reach out to them and try to rekindle their spiritual interest..
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Inactive ones are not "former members," they are current members, just inactive. Inactive ones are not subject to the institutionalized shunning policy as dictated by the WTBTS. If they are shunned, it would be because of a decision made by the individual(s) shunning them. (Although I'm sure gossip and peer pressure come in to play in many of these situations.)
When someone is disfellowshipped or disassociates themselves an announcement is made: "So-and-so is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses." At that moment in time they become a "former member" and are subsequently shunned.
The equivocating piece of propaganda quoted in the OP is an outright, bald-faced lie. Plain and simple.
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Jehovah Witness victims of Childhood Sex Abuse from Australia. GUIDE QUESTIONS FOR PROVIDING A STATEMENT OR INFORMATION TO THE ROYAL COMMISSION.
by Sol Reform inhttps://www.facebook.com/mksafetynet/posts/596262710393651.
mksafetynet 285 like thisyesterday at 6:18am .
australia gets it, here is what to do to report abuse there.
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Mandatory Reporting!
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Interesting Quote from Adolph Hitler in MEIN kAMPF
by Band on the Run in"the aim of propaganda is not to try to pass judgment on conflicting rights, giving each its due, but exclusively to empahsixe the right which we are asserting.
propaganda must not investigate the truth objectively and, in so far as it is favorable to the other side, present it according to the theoretical rules of justice; yet it must present only that aspect of the truth which is favourable to its own side...... the broad masses of the people are not made up of diplomats or professors of public jurisprudence nor simply of persons who are able to form a reasoned judgment in given cases, but a vacillating crowd of human children who are constantly waveering between one idea and another....the masses are not in a position to discern where the enemy's fault ends and where our own begins..... the great majority of a nation is so feminine in its character and outlook that its thought and conduct are ruled by sentiment rather than by sober reasoning.
this sentiment, however, is not complex,but simple and consistent.
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You can read that article online, here at jw.org:
Here's the rest of the paragraph I quoted above:
Often [ Propagandists] real motives are not apparent. They sift the facts, exploiting the useful ones and concealing the others. They also distort and twist facts, specializing in lies and half-truths. Your emotions, not your logical thinking abilities, are their target.
It's prett creepy, isn't it? In that paragraph the WT writers clearly describe exactly what they do!
The article offers these five suggestions to avoid becoming a "Victim of Propaganda":
- Be selective
- Use discernment
- Put information to the test
- Ask questions
- Do not just follow the crowd
(Each bullet point has a paragraph or two explaining in detail how to apply these suggestions).
Imagine what would happen if everyone applied these principles while reading the Watchtower and Awake!
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Interesting Quote from Adolph Hitler in MEIN kAMPF
by Band on the Run in"the aim of propaganda is not to try to pass judgment on conflicting rights, giving each its due, but exclusively to empahsixe the right which we are asserting.
propaganda must not investigate the truth objectively and, in so far as it is favorable to the other side, present it according to the theoretical rules of justice; yet it must present only that aspect of the truth which is favourable to its own side...... the broad masses of the people are not made up of diplomats or professors of public jurisprudence nor simply of persons who are able to form a reasoned judgment in given cases, but a vacillating crowd of human children who are constantly waveering between one idea and another....the masses are not in a position to discern where the enemy's fault ends and where our own begins..... the great majority of a nation is so feminine in its character and outlook that its thought and conduct are ruled by sentiment rather than by sober reasoning.
this sentiment, however, is not complex,but simple and consistent.
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Adolph Hitler: Propadanda ... must present only that aspect of the truth which is favourable to its own side.....
Interesting quote!
Did you see the series of three articles on propaganda in the Awake! of 2000?
THERE is a difference—a big difference—between education and propaganda. Education shows you how to think. Propaganda tells you what to think. Good educators present all sides of an issue and encourage discussion. Propagandists relentlessly force you to hear their view and discourage discussion . - Awake!, June 22, 2000, pp. 9-11 – [Emphasis added]
They were actually quite informative and well written. The irony of course is that it openly discusses what the WTBTS literature is as: propaganda.
Of course, no "Kool-aid" drinking JW would pick-up on that!
Once you've learned the truth about "The Truth" (TTATT) it's impossible not to see it. It's like one of those optical illusions that you don't see right away, but once you see it, you can never again "not" see it!
Articles like this convince me that the writers of WT publications are fully aware of what they are doing. It is deliberate and calculated.
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Apostate Symposium 2013 San Diego District Convention
by problemaddict insorry i did not get audio.
too much going on around me that would give me away anyways.
i think someone posted audio, but it is different from what i heard on some levels.
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heathen: What I would like to see is the WTBTS GB admit a lie and ask forgiveness
Don't hold your breath!
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Suspicious
by Suspicious ini guess i'm new here.
born in and an ms. things just hasn't been making sense the more i think about it.
i'm starting to get suspicious.
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Suspicious: How can something I've learned my entire life be refuted so simply?
I think you just answered your own question!
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The show's not showing!
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'God's Word is Truth!' District Convention of Jehovah's Witnesses 2013 - FRIDAY AUDIO
by mindnumbed inthere were issues with the broadcast as well as my recording on friday, especially during the morning, some parts are missing or hard to hear.. friday entire day 120mb zip file or individually below.
the truthwill set you free.
john 8:32. morning.
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Thanks!
