Posts by Oubliette

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Hi Everyone. Answer to prayer countdown...

by Stumpy in

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i've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.

you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!

what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.

Oubliette

Shouldn't you just be able to say "sorry, I don't believe this anymore" and just leave???

You can. But anyone and everyone that is still believing will shun you. They are stuck in the religion/cult. You don't have to be.

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What bad habits have you picked up since leaving the Borg.

by James Mixon in

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i went back to smoking and gambling but the good habits out weigh.

the bad ones, like lying to people.

is't fraud against the law, the practice.

Oubliette

Caring about people that aren't in my exclusive cult

Criticizing cult

Thinking independently and for myself

Watching whatever kinds of movies I want

Listening to whatever kind of music I want

Reading whatever kinds of books I want

Having whoever I want as my friend

Getting a master's degree (in education for those that like details)

Having the occasional cigar

Sleeping in on weekends

Posting here

Counseling some young people I knew that were/are in this cult and left/are leaving

Damn, I'm an evil, wicked person!!!

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Noam Chomsky and Lawrence Krauss talk and discuss the nature of humanity

by Finkelstein in

noam chomsky and noted physicist and public intellectual lawrence krauss for an intimate evening of conversation at the origins project dialogue.

science, mind, and politics is a candid and unscripted conversation on contemporary issues on the nature of humanity, the power of science and the mind, and global social justice.

the discussion goes into the evolution of human social progress and the reasons why humanity is progressing.

Jehovah's Witnesses ... Proclaimers of "soon, very soon" since 1879

by jwleaks in

the first edition of the watchtower magazine, july 1879, made the following comment on page 5 regarding how "soon" the end of this system will come:.

exactly 136 years later the latest edition of the watchtower magazine, july 2015, (paragraph 3) made the following comment on page 15 regarding how "soon" the end of this system will come:.

jehovah's witnesses ... proclaimers of "soon, very soon" since 1879.. .

Oubliette

Wow, 136 years of being completely wrong! And never once an open honest admission of error.

But if YOU ever mess up, it's a humiliating JC for you with possible disfellowshipping and shunning.

That's pretty fucked up.

Let's review: It's a cult!

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What Things Did You Not Talk About as a JW?

by minimus in

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you have to lead a secret life as a jw.

you're not supposed to over drink, go to night clubs, enjoy worldly concerts, etc.....sex, though is really taboo.

you could never freely talk about your sex life.

Oubliette

My ever growing doubts about the organization being what it claimed to be.

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Does the Jehovah's Witnesses fall into category of being an organized cult ?

by Finkelstein in

i think it does especially being that this organization is rigidly structured itself on formulated doctrines from a top hierarchy of men which are strictly enforced, among other reasons.

what cults are.

a cult is not necessarily a religious group, although religious cults are common, including breakaway sects from more mainstream faiths.

Does the Jehovah's Witnesses fall into category of being an organized cult ?

by Finkelstein in

i think it does especially being that this organization is rigidly structured itself on formulated doctrines from a top hierarchy of men which are strictly enforced, among other reasons.

what cults are.

a cult is not necessarily a religious group, although religious cults are common, including breakaway sects from more mainstream faiths.

i work with a JW and he doesnt know im an inactive

by user100 in

so i started working at this place 4 years ago.. and i am usually myself a still-in inactive atheist jw at work.

after several months i came to realize the guy i work with is a devout jw... im always afraid of running into him in the conventions.. he is in a different circuit but im afraid he might show up in one of the district conventions.. i am dreading that day...

Oubliette

if he tells on me then i will have to deal with the situation with the eldubs and get into a whole mess with the brainwashed wife.

You absolutely do NOT have to deal with the elder.

The wife is another situation.

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How do stop myself getting too Bitter?

by stuckinarut2 in

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you know, i always maintained that during this fading process, and while learning ttatt, i would not let myself get "bitter twisted and angry".... but, in all honesty, if i examine myself, i have become quite bitter toward the org, toward the false friends and the gb.. i have become angry as i see the extent of damage i feel being raised in "the truth" has done.... i feel hurt towards the lost opportunities in life etc.... how do i not allow myself to get too swallowed up by such bitterness?.

i have always been a very happy, positive, selfless person.

i can put people at ease, i am someone people feel comfortable chatting to.

Oubliette

Stuck, there is a grieving process that you need to go through.

It takes time. You can't rush it or force it.

Are you familiar with the Kubler-Ross model of the 5 Stages of Grief?

1. Denial and Isolation
2. Anger
3. Bargaining
4. Depression
5. Acceptance

Here are a couple of articles you might find helpful:

I've heard several people say that it takes about 1 month of time away for every year you were in a dysfunctional relationship to heal. I think it is probably longer.

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i work with a JW and he doesnt know im an inactive

by user100 in

so i started working at this place 4 years ago.. and i am usually myself a still-in inactive atheist jw at work.

after several months i came to realize the guy i work with is a devout jw... im always afraid of running into him in the conventions.. he is in a different circuit but im afraid he might show up in one of the district conventions.. i am dreading that day...

Oubliette

User100: im just afraid he'll be shocked and then run to the eldubs and tell on me

And so what if he does?