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  i work with a JW and he doesnt know im an inactive

  by user100 in

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  so i started working at this place 4 years ago.. and i am usually myself a still-in inactive atheist jw at work.

  after several months i came to realize the guy i work with is a devout jw... im always afraid of running into him in the conventions.. he is in a different circuit but im afraid he might show up in one of the district conventions.. i am dreading that day...

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  Flamegrilled: I'm surprised they don't seem to understand the stress that this situation can cause.

  I don't know if you're referring to my comments, but I can assure you that I DO KNOW the stress that these situations cause. In fact, I know it all too well.

  Things changed for me when I realized a couple of things:

  • Most of the things I worried might happen, never did,
  • Even when some of them did happen, it rarely was as bad as I expected, and most importantly,
  • The elders only have as much power and authority over any of us as we give them.
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  Hi Everyone. Answer to prayer countdown...

  by Stumpy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.

  you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!

  what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.

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  Shouldn't you just be able to say "sorry, I don't believe this anymore" and just leave???

  You can. But anyone and everyone that is still believing will shun you. They are stuck in the religion/cult. You don't have to be.
  
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  What bad habits have you picked up since leaving the Borg.

  by James Mixon in

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  2. friends

  i went back to smoking and gambling but the good habits out weigh.

  the bad ones, like lying to people.

  is't fraud against the law, the practice.

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  Caring about people that aren't in my exclusive cult

  Criticizing cult

  Thinking independently and for myself
  

  Watching whatever kinds of movies I want

  Listening to whatever kind of music I want

  Reading whatever kinds of books I want

  Having whoever I want as my friend

  Getting a master's degree (in education for those that like details)

  Having the occasional cigar

  Sleeping in on weekends

  Posting here

  Counseling some young people I knew that were/are in this cult and left/are leaving
  

  Damn, I'm an evil, wicked person!!!
  
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  Noam Chomsky and Lawrence Krauss talk and discuss the nature of humanity

  by Finkelstein in

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  noam chomsky and noted physicist and public intellectual lawrence krauss for an intimate evening of conversation at the origins project dialogue.

  science, mind, and politics is a candid and unscripted conversation on contemporary issues on the nature of humanity, the power of science and the mind, and global social justice.

  the discussion goes into the evolution of human social progress and the reasons why humanity is progressing.

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  Marking
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  Jehovah's Witnesses ... Proclaimers of "soon, very soon" since 1879

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the first edition of the watchtower magazine, july 1879, made the following comment on page 5 regarding how "soon" the end of this system will come:.

  exactly 136 years later the latest edition of the watchtower magazine, july 2015, (paragraph 3) made the following comment on page 15 regarding how "soon" the end of this system will come:.

  jehovah's witnesses ... proclaimers of "soon, very soon" since 1879.. .

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  Wow, 136 years of being completely wrong! And never once an open honest admission of error.

  But if YOU ever mess up, it's a humiliating JC for you with possible disfellowshipping and shunning.
  

  That's pretty fucked up.

  Let's review: It's a cult!

  
  
  
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  What Things Did You Not Talk About as a JW?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  you have to lead a secret life as a jw.

  you're not supposed to over drink, go to night clubs, enjoy worldly concerts, etc.....sex, though is really taboo.

  you could never freely talk about your sex life.

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  My ever growing doubts about the organization being what it claimed to be.
  
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  Does the Jehovah's Witnesses fall into category of being an organized cult ?

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i think it does especially being that this organization is rigidly structured itself on formulated doctrines from a top hierarchy of men which are strictly enforced, among other reasons.

  what cults are.

  a cult is not necessarily a religious group, although religious cults are common, including breakaway sects from more mainstream faiths.

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  ... It's a cult!

  
  
  
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  Does the Jehovah's Witnesses fall into category of being an organized cult ?

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i think it does especially being that this organization is rigidly structured itself on formulated doctrines from a top hierarchy of men which are strictly enforced, among other reasons.

  what cults are.

  a cult is not necessarily a religious group, although religious cults are common, including breakaway sects from more mainstream faiths.

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  Let's review ....
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  i work with a JW and he doesnt know im an inactive

  by user100 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i started working at this place 4 years ago.. and i am usually myself a still-in inactive atheist jw at work.

  after several months i came to realize the guy i work with is a devout jw... im always afraid of running into him in the conventions.. he is in a different circuit but im afraid he might show up in one of the district conventions.. i am dreading that day...

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  if he tells on me then i will have to deal with the situation with the eldubs and get into a whole mess with the brainwashed wife.

  You absolutely do NOT have to deal with the elder.

  The wife is another situation.
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  How do stop myself getting too Bitter?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  you know, i always maintained that during this fading process, and while learning ttatt, i would not let myself get "bitter twisted and angry".... but, in all honesty, if i examine myself, i have become quite bitter toward the org, toward the false friends and the gb.. i have become angry as i see the extent of damage i feel being raised in "the truth" has done.... i feel hurt towards the lost opportunities in life etc.... how do i not allow myself to get too swallowed up by such bitterness?.

  i have always been a very happy, positive, selfless person.

  i can put people at ease, i am someone people feel comfortable chatting to.

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  Stuck, there is a grieving process that you need to go through.

  It takes time. You can't rush it or force it.

  Are you familiar with the Kubler-Ross model of the 5 Stages of Grief?

  1. Denial and Isolation
  2. Anger
  3. Bargaining
  4. Depression
  5. Acceptance
  

  Here are a couple of articles you might find helpful:

  • The 5 Stages of Loss and Grief
  • The 5 Stages of Grieving the End of a Relationship
  • Grief and Depression

  I've heard several people say that it takes about 1 month of time away for every year you were in a dysfunctional relationship to heal. I think it is probably longer.