Posts by Oubliette

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Was it worth it?
by John Aquila in
1. jw
2. experiences
for those of you who left family and friends and had to start over from scratch just to get out of the organization, was it worth it?.

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Oubliette

What, are you suggesting that it is acceptable to live a lie?
Once a person realizes the WTBTS is not what it claims to be, there is only one choice: be real or be a hypocrite. The OP implies there is some "price" which would justify continuing to live as a liar and a hypocrite. There is none.
Ironically, the only way the WT keeps people is by fear. Once you wake up to TTATT, you know that all of the supposed benefits were all false hopes and imaginary pipe dreams.
I resent that my children have been turned against me by their vindictive mother who was aided and abetted by the doctrines and practices of this religion, but I simply could not continue to live a lie. I really can't understand how anyone can.
To be clear, I understand WHY people that know TTATT stay in this religion and pretend to be something they are not, I just don't know HOW they can do it. The psychological damage that does to a person is devastating.
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MASTER'S THESIS on Charles Taze Russell's sources and ideas
by TerryWalstrom in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a226955.pdf.

click on the above link and have a most enjoyable read!.

below, the opening paragraph.
Oubliette

Who wrote this?
What's the context?
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Deceiving statements in The Watchtower (Study Edition) September 2015
by opusdei1972 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
on page 9, paragraph 7:.

neither a branch office nor the local congregation elders are authorized to make health-care decisions for a witness, even if he asks what to do.

(gal.
Oubliette

Classic manipulation: "We don't make rules, however .... "
Let's review: It's a cult!
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Does The Watchtower Use Propaganda?
by The Governor in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
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Oubliette

Thanks for drawing attention to those Awake! article on propaganda. They are actually very well written and are an excellent primer on the art of propaganda.
I believe they also are strong evidence that the WT writers are deliberately deceptive and manipulative.
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Govening Body and JWN
by John Aquila in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
do you think any members of the governing body visit this site-jwn regularly?.

how about the heavies in the organization, like the writers, lawyers, and other who work at headquarters?.

for all we know john aquila could be a member of the gb..
Oubliette

Although it does seem that some changes in WT doctrine and policy seem to be the result of comments and criticisms here, I have a hard time believing the GB members themselves spend any time on this forum.
Their narcissistic egos are way to fragile to handle the constant ridicule and attacks on pretty much everything about them.
The cognitive dissonance would be too great. They'd either have a complete breakdown or double-down on the party line: we're "mentally diseased" apostates under Satan's control.
Their public behavior confirms the latter: it is evidence that they are paranoid delusional psychopaths.
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Return to Jehovah Photo
by naazira in
1. jw
2. friends
this picture is in the new publication from this year's convention, titled "return to jehovah".

part 1the lost one i will search for.

personally, the animal looks scared of the shepherd.
Oubliette

That is such bullshit.
When a person has been disfellowshipped, the elders make little, if any, attempts to "recover" that person.
Any WT rhetoric to the contrary is just window dressing.
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april 15th simplified why is the article dissfelowship a loving arrangement missing
by poopie in
1. jw
2. friends
thoghts
Oubliette

FMF: They dont want them to know the concequences of signing the billion year contract now do they?
The billion year contract is for Scientologists.
That's too short for JWs, they want FOREVER!
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Which Steve Hassan book?
by Tornintwo in
1. jw
2. friends
can anyone recommend which steve hassan book to read, i see there are 3.. my mind is all over the place during this process of finally acknowledging and researching my doubts, ive been recommended his books on here, but which one is best?.
Oubliette

I've read the first two. If you're only going to read one, the second would be my pick. It has less biographical information concerning Hassan's experience as a Moonie and more info on helping yourself and/or loved ones getting out of and over being in a cult:
Releasing the Bonds: Empowering People to Think for Themselves
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California Supreme Court Case - S226656
by Gayle in
1. jw
2. friends
http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/maincasescreen.cfm?dist=0&doc_id=2109889&doc_no=s226656&search=party&start=1&query_partylastnameororg=watchtower bible and tract.

started 5/27/2015.
Oubliette

From three years ago:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/239488/candace-conti-wts-appeal-info
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What is Your Brainwashing IQ ? Take the Quiz
by Finkelstein in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
so how much do you understand about brainwashing, its application and effects ?

essentially lures people into its grasps and then brainwashes them for exploitation and manipulative purposes by using mental indoctrination techniques.. here's a quick quiz to take to answer some of these questions.

http://voicesfordignity.com/brainwashing-iq/.
Oubliette

"I think creative open minded people are VERY skeptical about things."
This particular question and its corresponding answer were not worded as clearly as they could have been.
The fact is that creativity and skepticism are separate, unrelated traits. One can have one without the other.
Being skeptical can help one resist being manipulated, whereas having a creative mind can actually make a person easier to manipulate if they are not aware of the techniques of manipulation or do not possess the other traits which can protect an individual from being brainwashed.