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The Governing Body-Faded apostates?
by John Aquila in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
ive been here less than a year, but ive notice that the majority of us have faded for various reasons.

we also read the stories of those who got disfellowshipped or disassociated themselves.

in the majority of the cases, their parents will not talk to the children for years and the children will not talk to the parents even if they are dying.
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JA: But whatever the reason, most of us are not willing to pay the price and declare, “The Watchtower is a cult and evil and the Governing Body is a bunch of Fu*****liars.
I've said the above many time and in many ways, as have many others on this board.
It's possible that many in the higher echelons of the org are no longer "True Believers," but the fact that they still have their position disproves your idea that they could be "faded."
Like it or not, people that have awakened to the fact that this religion is a scam are morally culpable for remaining in it, this is true no matter what the reason. Even though I think we all understand why many do it, it involves living a lie, or at the very least a great deal of pretense.
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Spiritual Chess - A Short Story
by DT in
1. social
2. humour
i wrote a short story about what might happen if a jehovah's witness and an apostate decided to play a game of chess.. you can read it here http://blog.sparlockofthemultiverse.com/spiritual-chess-a-short-story/.
Oubliette

As long as you insist on having an invisible king, you may as well have an invisible opponent.
DT, well done. I enjoyed that!
It’s funny that, as an apostate, I probably spend more time reading your magazines than you do.
True dat too!
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Why new people visiting kingdom halls are able to comment while a reproved ones can't???
by hardtobeme in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i have always asked myself that question.

why new people visiting kingdom halls give comments at meetings while a reproved brother can't?.

who is more worldly?
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DarioKehl: 25 minutes agoLet's review... (You know the rest)

its all all about public shaming.
Shaming AND control!
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Are You "Technically" Still A Jehovah's Witness?
by minimus in
1. jw
2. friends
even if you don't regard yourself as a practicing jw, some may view you simply as inactive, a lost sheep, etc.. if you were baptized but not disfellowshipped or disassociated, you may still be a jw---right?

your thoughts please..
Oubliette

minimus: Even if you don't regard yourself as a practicing JW, some may view you simply as inactive, a lost sheep, etc.
I'm not DF'd but haven't been to a meeting in over a year and a half. I have no idea what others think. If they don't/can't/won't continue to keep in touch like normal friends and family then I don't really care what they think. Why should I?
As everyone on this board knows, I think: It's a cult!
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Was it worth it?
by John Aquila in
1. jw
2. experiences
for those of you who left family and friends and had to start over from scratch just to get out of the organization, was it worth it?.

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Oubliette

What, are you suggesting that it is acceptable to live a lie?
Once a person realizes the WTBTS is not what it claims to be, there is only one choice: be real or be a hypocrite. The OP implies there is some "price" which would justify continuing to live as a liar and a hypocrite. There is none.
Ironically, the only way the WT keeps people is by fear. Once you wake up to TTATT, you know that all of the supposed benefits were all false hopes and imaginary pipe dreams.
I resent that my children have been turned against me by their vindictive mother who was aided and abetted by the doctrines and practices of this religion, but I simply could not continue to live a lie. I really can't understand how anyone can.
To be clear, I understand WHY people that know TTATT stay in this religion and pretend to be something they are not, I just don't know HOW they can do it. The psychological damage that does to a person is devastating.
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MASTER'S THESIS on Charles Taze Russell's sources and ideas
by TerryWalstrom in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a226955.pdf.

click on the above link and have a most enjoyable read!.

below, the opening paragraph.
Oubliette

Who wrote this?
What's the context?
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Deceiving statements in The Watchtower (Study Edition) September 2015
by opusdei1972 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
on page 9, paragraph 7:.

neither a branch office nor the local congregation elders are authorized to make health-care decisions for a witness, even if he asks what to do.

(gal.
Oubliette

Classic manipulation: "We don't make rules, however .... "
Let's review: It's a cult!
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Does The Watchtower Use Propaganda?
by The Governor in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
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Thanks for drawing attention to those Awake! article on propaganda. They are actually very well written and are an excellent primer on the art of propaganda.
I believe they also are strong evidence that the WT writers are deliberately deceptive and manipulative.
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Govening Body and JWN
by John Aquila in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
do you think any members of the governing body visit this site-jwn regularly?.

how about the heavies in the organization, like the writers, lawyers, and other who work at headquarters?.

for all we know john aquila could be a member of the gb..
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Although it does seem that some changes in WT doctrine and policy seem to be the result of comments and criticisms here, I have a hard time believing the GB members themselves spend any time on this forum.
Their narcissistic egos are way to fragile to handle the constant ridicule and attacks on pretty much everything about them.
The cognitive dissonance would be too great. They'd either have a complete breakdown or double-down on the party line: we're "mentally diseased" apostates under Satan's control.
Their public behavior confirms the latter: it is evidence that they are paranoid delusional psychopaths.
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Return to Jehovah Photo
by naazira in
1. jw
2. friends
this picture is in the new publication from this year's convention, titled "return to jehovah".

part 1the lost one i will search for.

personally, the animal looks scared of the shepherd.
Oubliette

That is such bullshit.
When a person has been disfellowshipped, the elders make little, if any, attempts to "recover" that person.
Any WT rhetoric to the contrary is just window dressing.

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Posts by Oubliette

DarioKehl: 25 minutes agoLet's review... (You know the rest)

its all all about public shaming.