this topic was inspired by one of fhn's comments on the 'warzone' thread, so i'll just restate my post there .
.. "i've been wondering for a while now if ridicule really is an unacceptable feature in debate - it certainly isn't a valid form of argumentation.
the thing is, some individuals really do come out with the most laughable nonsense and parade it as a serious proposition that merits attention.
Here's another perspective to ponder:
It's been pointed out that there is a difference between ridiculing A PERSON and ridiculing THEIR IDEAS/BELIEFS.
What I haven't seen commented on here is the fact that some IDEAS and BELIEFS are inherently ridiculous. When another person points out this simple, plain unvarnished truth are they really guilty of doing anything wrong? Of course not!
this topic was inspired by one of fhn's comments on the 'warzone' thread, so i'll just restate my post there .
.. "i've been wondering for a while now if ridicule really is an unacceptable feature in debate - it certainly isn't a valid form of argumentation.
the thing is, some individuals really do come out with the most laughable nonsense and parade it as a serious proposition that merits attention.
HMTM: Ridicule is what Anthony Morris uses as a weapon to disarm those he opposes.
As I quoted before, “Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength.” ― Edmund Burke
this topic was inspired by one of fhn's comments on the 'warzone' thread, so i'll just restate my post there .
.. "i've been wondering for a while now if ridicule really is an unacceptable feature in debate - it certainly isn't a valid form of argumentation.
the thing is, some individuals really do come out with the most laughable nonsense and parade it as a serious proposition that merits attention.
Marvin: A horse should never see itself as an ass because a horse is not an ass and an ass is not a horse. But, me thinks readers get what you're trying to say!
You are of course correct, taxonomically speaking. They are however both of the genus Equus.
I was trying to be clever, referring to the other common meaning of the word: a stupid, obstinate, or perverse person.
But I think you knew this.
this topic was inspired by one of fhn's comments on the 'warzone' thread, so i'll just restate my post there .
.. "i've been wondering for a while now if ridicule really is an unacceptable feature in debate - it certainly isn't a valid form of argumentation.
the thing is, some individuals really do come out with the most laughable nonsense and parade it as a serious proposition that merits attention.
On the other hand, how many times has a person posted an incorrect idea or a false teaching or maybe they were just mean and someone called them on THAT only to be personally attacked for pointing out their error.
There are many people that post here that can dish it out but can't take it.
These kinds of posters can't differentiate between having their IDEAS refuted, maybe even attacked, and their PERSON attacked.
Hey, you can lead a horse to water .... but you can't make them see that they're an ass.
governing body member david splane has a new video on tv.jw.org where he talks about all the horrible things committed by martin luther and the protestant reformers.. his conclusion is that there has been no faithful and discreet slave on the earth during the past 1900 years (before 1919 i guess.).
he also says that maybe there were a few anointed on earth, maybe not.. he did add an interesting statement that he doesn't condemn the other churches just for misunderstanding the bible because the society has done that.. another odd point, was that he actually mentioned catholic missionary work in a somewhat positive light, while totally condemning the reformation views on predestination..
wifibandit: The 2012 teaching that only the Governing Body represents the Slave was described in 1981 as an apostate concept.
Which proves that it is actually the current GB that are the "mentally diseased" apostates, not us.
The religion I joined in the '80s does not exist any more.
this topic was inspired by one of fhn's comments on the 'warzone' thread, so i'll just restate my post there .
.. "i've been wondering for a while now if ridicule really is an unacceptable feature in debate - it certainly isn't a valid form of argumentation.
the thing is, some individuals really do come out with the most laughable nonsense and parade it as a serious proposition that merits attention.
SH: "Punch up. Don't punch down."
Great practical philosophy!
i'm allergic when watching to the faces of the gb members on tv.jw.org.
i think in my case that hypocrisy that i can detect on their different faces each new coming month may be at the origin of my allergy.
are you suffering from the same allergy as me ?
this topic was inspired by one of fhn's comments on the 'warzone' thread, so i'll just restate my post there .
.. "i've been wondering for a while now if ridicule really is an unacceptable feature in debate - it certainly isn't a valid form of argumentation.
the thing is, some individuals really do come out with the most laughable nonsense and parade it as a serious proposition that merits attention.
Nicolau: Ridicule will never be the first tool I go to but it has its place. And no, ridiculing ideas is not the same as ridiculing people
Exactly.
The problem is, so many people personally identify with ideas that when those ideas are ridiculed they believe that they have been ridiculed.
this topic was inspired by one of fhn's comments on the 'warzone' thread, so i'll just restate my post there .
.. "i've been wondering for a while now if ridicule really is an unacceptable feature in debate - it certainly isn't a valid form of argumentation.
the thing is, some individuals really do come out with the most laughable nonsense and parade it as a serious proposition that merits attention.
this photo can be found in the april 15 , study edition article titled:.
why disfellowshipping is a loving provision.
just by looking at this image we can see how quickly the barrier between the congregation and former member is put up, after the announcement that this sister is no longer one of jehovah's witneses.
Shunning and ostracism is one of the worst things one human being can do to another; it is second only to physical torture.
It is worse even the murder.
