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  Thinking of Going Full Disclosure With Wife. Sorta

  by freemindfade in

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  soliciting any and all opinions.

  as some of you may know, wife is full in pioneer.

  my fade has gone from us fighting.

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  It was about 12 or 13 years ago that I learned about the UN/NGO scandal. When I tried to talk to my born-in wife about it she walked about with her hands over her ears shouting, "I'm not listening to any of this."

  In retrospect, I realize that is was at that exact moment that our marriage ended. I tried for years to gently, subtly get her to see the truth about "The Truth," but was never able. For half a dozen years we continued to live together, but it was only as roommates.

  I tried to get my whole family out, but I couldn't.

  I tried to get my children out, but I couldn't.

  Eventually, I just had to get myself out because I couldn't stand to live a lie. How ironic, my "double life" was pretending to believe things I didn't believe. That was my hypocrisy.

  Whenever I read about situations like the FMF's I always hope that others will be able to get their family out of this cult intact, whole and healthy. It does happen sometimes, just not very often.

  This religion destroys families. It just does.

  FreeMindFade, I wish you success in leaving this religion. Hopefully you'll be able to get your wife to come to her senses and wake up.
  

  But let's not forget: It's a cult!

  
  
  
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  Thinking of Going Full Disclosure With Wife. Sorta

  by freemindfade in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  soliciting any and all opinions.

  as some of you may know, wife is full in pioneer.

  my fade has gone from us fighting.

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  IRG: Members of that cult are so programmed when it comes to their loyalty to the organization.

  THAT is the truth.
  
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  Thinking of Going Full Disclosure With Wife. Sorta

  by freemindfade in

  1. jw
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  soliciting any and all opinions.

  as some of you may know, wife is full in pioneer.

  my fade has gone from us fighting.

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  Daniel Genser's story (referenced in the OP) is very powerful. He explained very clearly and in a calm manner why he and his wife left the religion.

  You can read his story here:

  What I Believe to Be True – and How I Have Come to Believe It
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  @ RC: "For evolution to be true..."

  by Scully in

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  according to a jw contact, one of the speakers at the regional conventiontm stated that "for evolution to be true, two of the same kind would have had to evolve at the same time; one would have to be male and the other would have to be female, and then they would have to find each other".

  apparently the crowd had a good laugh over how evolutionists overlook such a simple "fact".. i mentioned that bacteria and viruses use asexual reproduction, and that many sea creatures / fish, etc.

  are hermaphrodite and do not require a sexual partner to produce offspring.. oddly enough, the conversation stopped there.

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  For anyone that wants to know more about what Cofty was talking about:

  Scientists discover why fungi have 36,000 sexes

  IF HUMANS were mushrooms, finding a date would be much easier. Whereas we muddle by with just two sexes, the fungi have 36,000, all of which can mate with each other, in a mysterious process involving underground fronds.
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  @ RC: "For evolution to be true..."

  by Scully in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to a jw contact, one of the speakers at the regional conventiontm stated that "for evolution to be true, two of the same kind would have had to evolve at the same time; one would have to be male and the other would have to be female, and then they would have to find each other".

  apparently the crowd had a good laugh over how evolutionists overlook such a simple "fact".. i mentioned that bacteria and viruses use asexual reproduction, and that many sea creatures / fish, etc.

  are hermaphrodite and do not require a sexual partner to produce offspring.. oddly enough, the conversation stopped there.

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  Billy: Of course, a JW argument like this against evolution is also an argument against the Noachian flood.

  Exactly.

  JWs are really reveal their profound lack of intellectual ability whenever they make statements like this. Indeed, if the Noachian flood story is true, then JWs would be required to believe in a much more aggressive form of biological evolution than the one that is generally proposed and accepted in the scientific community. They just don't get it.

  They are essentially saying that they believe the present biological diversity on earth (after the initial creation and subsequent destruction at the flood) happened in only a few thousand years whereas evolutionary biologists and related scientist make the claim that it happened over hundreds of millions of years.
  

  Most of JWs don't realize that evolution per se is not even the issue, it's the origin of life question. So silly. If you hope to have an intelligent conversation with most JWs you have to first educate them about how wrong they are about how they think before you can show them how wrong they are about what they "know."
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  @ RC: "For evolution to be true..."

  by Scully in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to a jw contact, one of the speakers at the regional conventiontm stated that "for evolution to be true, two of the same kind would have had to evolve at the same time; one would have to be male and the other would have to be female, and then they would have to find each other".

  apparently the crowd had a good laugh over how evolutionists overlook such a simple "fact".. i mentioned that bacteria and viruses use asexual reproduction, and that many sea creatures / fish, etc.

  are hermaphrodite and do not require a sexual partner to produce offspring.. oddly enough, the conversation stopped there.

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  DarioKehl: I guess the dirt man and rib woman in a magic garden who fucked up everything for the rest of us by taking dietary advice from a talking snake makes a helluva lot more sense. My bad! Sorry for murmuring.

  Too funny!

  Love the sarcasm.
  
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  @ RC: "For evolution to be true..."

  by Scully in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to a jw contact, one of the speakers at the regional conventiontm stated that "for evolution to be true, two of the same kind would have had to evolve at the same time; one would have to be male and the other would have to be female, and then they would have to find each other".

  apparently the crowd had a good laugh over how evolutionists overlook such a simple "fact".. i mentioned that bacteria and viruses use asexual reproduction, and that many sea creatures / fish, etc.

  are hermaphrodite and do not require a sexual partner to produce offspring.. oddly enough, the conversation stopped there.

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  "For evolution to be true, two of the same kind would have had to evolve at the same time; one would have to be male and the other would have to be female, and then they would have to find each other"

  Actually that is more or less true regarding sexual reproduction. But there is nothing surprising or challenging about the above statement if you understand how evolution works and the time frames involved. Without intending to, the speaker referenced in the OP unwittingly expressed his agreement with the theory of biological evolution.

  We are evolving all of the time.
  

  Watch this short PBS video and you'll understand if you don't already. And if you already get it, you might find the way this is presented will help you reason with others that don't yet get it:

  There Was No First Human
  
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  I AM LOOKING FOR LETTERS TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS AND I WANT TO VIEW IT HERE AND I DON'T NEED ANY LINK PLEASE

  by COLLINS in

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  i said that i want to view the september 7,2011 and the may 6,2012 to all bodies of elders and fadingtruth sent a link but i could not find them.. so i just want someone from this forum to post these letters here without any link please..

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  COLLINS: YOU CAN JUST GIVE ME ONE LINK LIKE SENDSPACE.COM INSTEAD OF THE LARGEST 1905-2015 BODIES OF ELDERS FILE BECAUSE IT IS VERY HARD TO FIND THEM AND I JUST NEED ONLY THESE TWO LETTERS.

  IS THAT WHAT WE CAN DO?

  FUNNY. DO YOU THINK WE ALL ARE JUST SITTING AROUND WAITING FOR YOU TO GIVE ORDERS AND MAKE DEMANDS. WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE, STEPHEN LETT? ANTHONY MORRIS?
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  Huge story unfolding at Warwick

  by Crazyguy in

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  its been mentioned before that warwick is a toxic dump and now the jw's are suing a former owner for compensation.

  well this is huge on so many levels.

  one they new it was contaminated back a few years ago so why move your headquarters there?

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  DarioKehl: Didn't they also get in trouble for illegal dumping in walkill? Huh... God will ruin those ruining the earth.

  Watchtower Caught Dumping Chemicals

  The site is currently enrolled in the state Brownfield Cleanup Program. (http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20111227/NEWS/112270319)

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  I AM LOOKING FOR LETTERS TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS AND I WANT TO VIEW IT HERE AND I DON'T NEED ANY LINK PLEASE

  by COLLINS in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i said that i want to view the september 7,2011 and the may 6,2012 to all bodies of elders and fadingtruth sent a link but i could not find them.. so i just want someone from this forum to post these letters here without any link please..

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  Oubliette

  Wow, what a spoiled brat!

  
  

  Go to your room. You need a time-out!