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  Discussing the RC with a friend and my JW wife was listening.

  by Driving Force in

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  i am fuming at the moment and my wife has made me so angry.. i live in germany and an ex jw, a friend of mine is also ex jw but does not understand english so i was giving him a rundown on the friday session of the rc with gj.

  my wife was in another part of the house but heard my phone ring and so she came to listen, i did not realize this, because when the phone rang i closed two doors between myself and my wife.

  she opened the first door and started listening to the conversation.

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  DF: Anyway it took a great deal of effort not to punch her in the nose.

  Your wife is clearly out of control and her behavior unacceptable.

  Resorting to physical violence in return is certainly NOT going to help the situation. I'm glad you restrained yourself.

  DF: She also warned me that I am not stronger than Jehovah and that I cannot fight against Jehovah.

  Since Jehovah doesn't exist I think you're safe.

  I suggest you tell your wife to watch the RC interview of Geoffrey Jackson and then come to her own conclusions.
  
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  The sheer lunacy of Jackson's view regarding mandatory reporting of child sexual abuse.

  by DATA-DOG in

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  2. beliefs

  lunacy?

  insanity?

  without a doubt.

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  As both Justice McLellan and Angus Stewart pointed out, Australia has a legal concept known as misprision which requires all citizens to report any criminal activity to the proper authorities.

  Vincent Toole claimed to not know about that particular law and how it applied. He also said that he believed that mandatory reporting laws somehow over-ruled the concept of misprision (never mind that he contradicted himself in saying that).

  Even still, there are states in Australia that do have mandatory reporting laws and yet not one of the 1,006 known abusers in Australia were ever reported to the authorities by JW elders. Not one!
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  Using Governing Body Member Jackson Testimony To The Royal Commission, For A Defense Before A Judicial Committee Meeting

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i think that a person that is called before a judicial committee can use a recording of the trial and force the elder to view it because of jackson's statement to the commission and get off.

  i think mr jackson has said enough about people who wish to leave the witnesses as not being harassed, hunted down, or spied upon and such to get the elder off your back and give them a "good witness".. also to be highlighted is the fact that jackson has stated under oath that the governing body is willing to reexamine doctrine and policy in order to conform to the law,.

  i think many statements by gb jackson to the commission can be used by some one clever and thus escape the label of apostate and be unhindered to a large extent of speaking to others.. .

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  BW, while the idea in your OP makes sense, it is based on the presumption that Elders care about logic, justice and acting in ways in harmony with those precepts.

  Elders are just like the average JW (actually more so): they are indoctrinated, mind-controlled people that will do whatever the WT Leadership tell them to do.

  The fact that, over the last 65 years, not one out of 1,006 cases of known abusers in the organization in Australia was reported to the proper civil authorities proves that.

  The elders are tools. They just do what they are told. Thinking isn't something they are told to do.
  
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  To the Royal Commission: A JW's thank you note... from Mexico!

  by avaddohn94 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  note: i sent this e-mail to their contact mail address and now, i wish to make it public for it truly expresses my current thoughts!.

  a jw's thank you note... from mexico!.

  first of all, let me tell you i am still one of jehovah's witnesses.

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  Great letters avaddohn94 and Heaven!
  
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  Mr Jackson said the GB has apologized in the past?

  by notsurewheretogo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  please enlighten me as to where and when...

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  Let's just say that if YOU made a "mistake" along the lines that landed YOU in a JW Judicial Committee and YOU offered the kind of "apology" that the WTBTS leaders have made in the past, you would be disfellowshipped faster than you can say, "As A. H. Macmillan once explained, 'We should admit our mistakes ...'"
  
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  Mr Jackson said the GB has apologized in the past?

  by notsurewheretogo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  please enlighten me as to where and when...

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  I'll tell you where: NOwhere!
  
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  I watched Mr. Jackson last night with my super cult minded parents

  by Magwitch in

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  2. scandals

  i have seen some ask on this site how the active jw's are handling what is happening in australia.

  here is my little experience from last night........ my parents were baptized in the late 30's as children and have never faltered in their determination to survive the great tribulation and live forever in paradise (even though they actively associate with all their df'ed kids).

  my father is still actively serving as an elder and my mother has always been by his side.

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  It's funny how different Jackson's answer look depending on one's particular perspective.
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  Phone call straight after the Royal Commission

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  straight after the commission ended today within minutes, the phone rang.

  it was one of the people who are working on it.

  firstly she established if i was alright and did i want to talk.. i said i was too tired and unhappy that geoffrey jackson managed to do some preaching....she said they were aware of that.

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  Umberto, thank you very much for sharing this.

  I didn't think for a second that anyone on the RC was fooled by Jackson's duplicity and evasiveness, but it is nice to get confirmation.
  
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  Washington Post: JW the least willing religion to deal with child sexual abuse

  by adjusted knowledge in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the church, which was founded in pennsylvania in the 1870s to promote a first century interpretation of the bible and is now headquartered in brooklyn, has emerged as the least able or willing to deal with sexual abuse within its ranks, according to annie cousins, a law professor at the university of new south wales and an expert in sex crimes who is a consultant to the inquiry.. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/jehovahs-witnesses-face-child-sex-abuse-investigation-in-australia/2015/08/14/d8a58eda-406e-11e5-9561-4b3dc93e3b9a_story.html.

  now i know that annie cousins is not of the high caliber expert witness as the jw expert monica applewhite but i think cousins makes a great observation..

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  I loved this excerpt:
  

  "The church, ..., has emerged as the least able or willing to deal with sexual abuse within its ranks, according to Annie Cousins, a law professor at the University of New South Wales and an expert in sex crimes who is a consultant to the inquiry.

  “'I find their approach to the issue and victims extraordinarily bizarre — almost medieval,' she said in an interview."
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  Geoffrey Jackson - Freedome Of Religon Within Jehovah's Witnesses - VIDEO

  by C0ntr013r in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  a summary for you guys of the rather lengthy discussion about peoples ability to leave the organisation:.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpir8vjsdre&feature=youtu.be.

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  Oubliette

  Great summary, thanks C0ntr013r!