Posts by Oubliette

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Cognitive Dissonance

by LexIsFree in

jw
friends

the cognitive dissonance amongst jws has never been more obvious to me then what i just experience in the last 5 min.

long story short i had a phone conversation w/my mom about some things and i mentioned to her to look up what has been going on with their beloved organization in australia.

brother geoffrey jackson of the holy governing body was caught lying numerous times about several subjects including disassociations & shunning.

Oubliette

LF's Mom: This Brother Jackson you speak of is probably not an active JW.

WTF?!?

Your mom doesn't even know who determines what she "believes."

That's pretty sad, dude.

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Another annointed disfelowshipped for showing love

by poopie in

jw
friends

ok this is story1.annointed bro moves into a house and rents room from a lady.

2.he is currently serving as elder.3.there happens to be a disfellowsipped brother also living in house.4.

the annointed elder decides to help him to return to jehovah.5 the other elders find out and decide to remove him as elder because he is living and helping a df person and the annointed bro cannot move out because he does not have enough money.

Oubliette

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Let's review: It's a cult!

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Ganged up via Telephone

by vinman in

i've been fading for about 9 months.

the elders know exactly why.

i received a phone call a couple of days ago.

Oubliette

Woohoo!

Apostates: 1

Elders: 0

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Geoffrey Jackson on "corporal punishment"

by opusdei1972 in

here is another jackson's misleading answer, from the transcript of august 14 :.

25 q. do you accept corporal punishment?

29 a. not not personally, no, and not as an organisation 30 we don't encourage it.

Oubliette

You could tell whenever Jackson got nervous and/or starting lying.

Hi "um" count and blink rate both increased dramatically.

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Greatest quote in this century by a Governing Body member!

by Crazyguy in

not only does he say it would be arrogant of him to state only he and his group are the only channel of communication from god but goes on to admit others maybe as well.

what??.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv_pjpawuuk&feature=player_detailpage.

Oubliette

Milie: it was Pope Francis that said ["guardians of the doctrine"] first last year in a speech.

It's funny, the WT leaders pretend to hate the Catholic church, but they keep copying them!

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Why Me?

by John Aquila in

do you ever wonder why out of all the witnesses, you are the one that woke up?

i wonder many times why me.

i know many men and women that are much, much better persons than me; either they are much smarter, more humble, kinder, more successful, or just better persons all around.

Oubliette

John Aquila: So why did I wake up?

This is a great question, and one that is not so easily answered.

It's obviously not about intellect alone or any other solitary personality trait.

It does however seem to be linked in all cases to these two traits:

Self-awareness - In particular, it is the type of self-awareness that allows one to be honest and objective about oneself. It need not be complete, but it is most certainly different from the corresponding deficit among those that do not "wake-up" and leave a cult.
Courage - This is the courage to do what is right when the cost is high. As those of us that have left this religion know, the losses are great: family, friends and other relationships. Many of us were often humiliated and abused by those that remained.

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It takes a certain kind of personal strength to leave a cult. This does not mean that we are "better" per se than those that remain. Indeed, we often come out scarred or even broken, but in the end we overcome and do get better, or at least we become better than who and what we once were.

It's not a competition. It's an opportunity for personal growth.

John Aquila: This is what makes it hard for me to believe that God is a good person.

If there is a God--that is some sort of superior being that was involved in creation--it most certainly isn't anything like the "god" of the bible. The creature is a messed-up reflection of human frailties and shortcomings in intellect, emotional maturity and just plain balance.

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Had to go to a JW funeral yesterday.

by Crazyguy in

it's amazing how ones shun former witnesses or faders.

a couple of people said high to me that know i do not go but the rest no.

but the main reason i post is how ridiculous the funeral talk was.

Oubliette

TOH: The JW funerals I have attended have been 90 % good. The non-JW funerals have been mostly bad

ALL JW funerals are promotional sales pitches for the religion! ALL OF THEM. 100%.

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Are There Good People Out There?

by LaurenM in

even though i'm no longer mentally a jw (i still technically am) i do recognize that there are some benefits to being raised one.

for example, the first (and only so far) wordly guy i was involved with had to smoke weed every day and got drunk all the time and that was his idea of fun.

i couldn't help but feel bad for him.

Oubliette

Sure, there are lots of good people "out there."

In my experience, there are a much higher percentage of "good people" that are not JWs than in the religion.

Multiply that by 300, the ratio of non-JWs to JWs, and you come to realize that there are literally billions and billions of "good people out there"

Now get out there and find a few!

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Brother who works on JW Broadcasting gave a 20 minute talk, said something big is coming next month.

by wifibandit in

via /r/exjw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc7vhu8l88k.