Posts by Oubliette

posted

96
Special Pioneer Couple Living at a Kingdom Hall In Miami FL, get the dreaded Letter
by James Jack in
1. jw
2. experiences
just got a phone call from an older sister saying that a couple that got re-assigned from bethel 4 years ago to live at their kh apartment as special pioneers, just received a letter saying "as of january 2016, your special pioneer assignment will be discontinued".. they live in a south miami kh(snapper creek congregation).. this couple had only served in bethel for 15 years before they were sent out into the special pioneer work.

they are now in their mid 50's and the sister said that they have to find part time jobs to support themselves.. the older sister (does not have a pc or internet), says that the couple are just devastated!

.
Oubliette

So much for: "Trust in Jehovah with all your heart, And do not rely on your own understanding. In all your ways take notice of him, And he will make your paths straight." - Proverbs 3:5-6
137
Something interesting!
by John Aquila in
1. jw
2. experiences
i was invited to a small get-together by a long time friend.

we both served as elders for years.

he is in his late 70s.
Oubliette
Simon: the fact that there aren't [more splinter groups] demonstrates that the majority don't really have strongly held beliefs about much other than that the society is always right. That is their one and only core belief.
THAT is a very interesting observation!
- If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking. - George Smith Patton
137
Something interesting!
by John Aquila in
1. jw
2. experiences
i was invited to a small get-together by a long time friend.

we both served as elders for years.

he is in his late 70s.
Oubliette

John Aquila: These guys are not apostates
Could you please explain what you mean?
If you mean they're not like Lloyd Evans (John Cedars) in being openly confrontational, I get that.
But certainly the WT leadership would consider them apostates.
137
Something interesting!
by John Aquila in
1. jw
2. experiences
i was invited to a small get-together by a long time friend.

we both served as elders for years.

he is in his late 70s.
Oubliette

John, that is really interesting.
It looks like a schism of sorts is in the works.
I'm not surprised; actually I've wondered why this hasn't happened before. Well, apparently it has.
The problem with something like this is the lack of a central doctrine or belief to keep any splinter group going.
I'm reminded too of a statement by Ray Franz (I'm paraphrasing) that so often people that are disillusioned with the corruption and loss of direction by their own religion start a new one, unfortunately with "disturbing regularity" it generally turns into the very thing they tried to get away from.
Please keep us posted.
80
ANNOUNCEMENT CLIP ...2015 Annual meeting Sam Herd confirming what we knew a month ago about slow down and halt of worldwide construction
by Watchtower-Free in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_h68ktwpim&feature=youtu.be.
Oubliette

Classic propaganda. Orwell couldn't have done better.
30
Pledge for Global Assistance Arrangement - $15 per publisher!
by nmthinker in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
last night our congregation read a letter for the global assistance arrangement combined with the traveling overseer assistance arrangement.

the "recommended" amount was $15 per publisher, which was well over $1000 for our hall.. it seemed steep.

our congregation does not have this type of money.
Oubliette

nmthinker: Pathetic, really. I will never give WTBS another dime of my money. I'll be giving it to orphans and widows, the needy of my family and the congregation.
Good for you!
nmthinker: Something doesn't add up.
Yes it does: It's a cult!
16
Another Scientist Misquoted - October 2015 Awake - Scientist Response
by FadingTruth in
1. watchtower
2. bible
october 2015 awake article writes:.

this experiment led jeffrey h. schwartz, a professor of anthropology, to conclude that while adaptation may help a species survive under changing circumstances, it is not creating anything new.. email response from scientist to reddit user myxomatosis_.

reddit user u/opinionmill pointed out in another thread that they've used the quote before:.
Oubliette

Interesting. There is just so many things wrong with this religion, it's really mind-blowing!
41
Talking with a young elder
by biblexaminer in
1. jw
2. experiences
i had a discussion with an elder recently.

it was interesting in a macabre sense.

we were outside the kingdom hall on a nice sunny day recently.
Oubliette

PS: Since you finally decided to respond directly to one of my posts from the first page of this thread, I gotta ask: Why did you choose to quote my response to Morpheus and not my first post which was directed to you?
What exactly was the point you were trying to make? It's not very clear.
Responding nicely to that could have avoided a lot of trouble.
I'm just sayin' is all!
41
Talking with a young elder
by biblexaminer in
1. jw
2. experiences
i had a discussion with an elder recently.

it was interesting in a macabre sense.

we were outside the kingdom hall on a nice sunny day recently.
Oubliette

You're funny, BE!
I didn't make this about me; you did that.
Your hypothetical situation about a rocket scientist is ironically interesting. Curious you should have chosen that.
The summer before last, I spent two weeks at a teacher's institute at JPL-NASA in Pasadena. Each day's agenda included a number of different activities, often featuring lectures by scientists from any of the a wide range of fields related to robotic space exploration at NASA. Many of those scientists were what most would loosely call "rocket scientists."
Although some of the lecturers were perhaps more engaging than others, all were very articulate and clear in discussing highly technical projects ranging from the Mars Rover missions to the Cassini flyby of Saturn. At the end of each session was an open Q&A. No matter what questions were asked (and keep in mind this was a room full of science teachers), all of the lecturers were always very gracious and forthcoming in offering additional explanations and clarification. It was apparent they loved what they did and were eager to share that enthusiasm with other.
It was very informative and a lot of fun.
27
Full 2015 Annual Meeting Program
by wifibandit in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=plrw9u-n1z2m8peenfmbdxmvbdkum0ce1n.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uppgsfl6o5k.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9j8ivkmkvk.
Oubliette

Ugh.
Still, it's important that these things are leaked.
Thanks for posting WiFi!!!