recently at a funeral for an active jw, death was sudden and tragic.
was surprised that that one of the disfellowshipped children of the deceased was comforted by the jw's at the funeral.
i would say the majority hugged and said a few short words to the disfellowshipped child on the recieving line to comfort the family.
When my father-in-law died, three of his disfellowshipped adult children came to the funeral. There was quite a lot of hugging and crying by the active JWs.
The disfellowshipped ones came over to the house later for association (ironic, no), food and drinks. They hung out for several hours.
That was more than a decade ago. As far as I know, none of the active JWs have made any attempt to reconnect with their brothers and sister since. None.
Let's review: It's a cult!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bhhs5lhr00.
words.....just cant find the words......
Magnum: Heck, he probably doesn't even have a good grasp of what JWs believe.
Young man, I'll listen to what you have to say IF you can clearly explain to me the "overlapping generation" teaching using only the Bible and a standard dictionary!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja4z2-sf4ky.
Every verse he quoted applies to the leaders of the WTBTS.
The irony is palpable.
the following is a paragraph from the new february study watchtower article "learn from jehovah's loyal servants.".
7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.
for example, a sister named anne [1] received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.
I thought they were toning down their rhetoric.
Nope. Think again.
i keep thinking about the time i will "come out" and tell my wife about this sick cult.
i don't know when that day will come, but knowing me i will seat down with her and ask her for 5 minutes to explain to her why we as a family has to get out.
my question is: what will you tell somebody in 5 minutes, that will convince that perdon that this is not a good religion to follow and that we have been deceived?.
I tried that 13 years ago. That woman is now my ex-wife and still brainwashed by the cult.
Good luck, you'll need it!
i'm reading an excellent book about defectors from the mormon church called differing visions: dissenters in mormon history.
through a collection of essays from many academic authors it looks at the life stories of dissenters and reasons for departure, as well as analysing the impact of their dissent on the church itself.
fascinating stuff and makes me wish there was a similar volume looking at the key dissenters from jws/watchtower and the impact they had.
Another name to ponder perhaps is musician Frank Kavelin
Frank didn't help me leave, but he and his wife Barbara have been a huge help and support after I left, especially in those first few months when I was so emotionally fragile.
But Frank is not an outspoken dissenter. He is just a regular guy trying to live the rest of his life as normally as possible after spending the majority of it in a high-control, authoritarian cult.
lots of great potential to help those sp that are being sent off without any financial help from the wtbts.
i think that it would be a great way to get some exposure on this topic and how the wtbts thats those that dedicated their lives to the wtbts only to be sent packing at a late age.
then someone can take the funds to one sp couple, possibly, and give it to them in honor of the apostates that know what is really happening.
What the organization is doing to its most loyal members is wrong, but why would any of us want to help support people that still believe the org is doing "Jehovah's work"?
i'm reading an excellent book about defectors from the mormon church called differing visions: dissenters in mormon history.
through a collection of essays from many academic authors it looks at the life stories of dissenters and reasons for departure, as well as analysing the impact of their dissent on the church itself.
fascinating stuff and makes me wish there was a similar volume looking at the key dissenters from jws/watchtower and the impact they had.
VI: Why do you believe that Cedars has a greater position than Raymond Franz?
I'm with VI on this!?! Barbara Anderson has had a tremendous impact as a result of her insider knowledge, particularly concerning the pedophile issue.
xjwsrock: SBF is being sarcastic about Cedars.
I sure hope that's the case. Seriously.
Just get ready for it. There are quite a few people on this forum that get very nasty, quite rabid actually, with anyone that dares to criticize Cedars.
i'm reading an excellent book about defectors from the mormon church called differing visions: dissenters in mormon history.
through a collection of essays from many academic authors it looks at the life stories of dissenters and reasons for departure, as well as analysing the impact of their dissent on the church itself.
fascinating stuff and makes me wish there was a similar volume looking at the key dissenters from jws/watchtower and the impact they had.
SBF, Interesting list and great idea.
Why don't YOU write the book?
i was invited to a small get-together by a long time friend.
we both served as elders for years.
he is in his late 70s.
JA: The WT sometimes looks like Santa Claus compared to other mind-controlled organizations or individuals.
Yes, but the fact that there are worse examples of exploitation doesn't exonerate the WTBTS. In some ways they are especially culpable because of their claims of "having the truth" and being "the One True Religion."
