prologos: It was not a ring that was found, but a seal impression, formerly attached to a documentThanks for the clarification. It makes a difference.
Oubliette
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A Seal Ring bearing King Hezekiah's found in Jerusalem excavation, with ankh symbol and winged sun
by fulltimestudent infrom a story in the jewish press:.
quote: "the city of david excavations of the jerusalem hebrew university on mount ophel, at the foot of the southern wall of the temple mount compound, have yielded a sensational discovery: a seal (bulla) with the name of king hezekiah (727-698 bce).".
"king hezekiahs bulla was discovered in a garbage heap that was dumped during or shortly after hezekiahs time, from a royal building that was used to store food.
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CEDARS (Again) Is it really about religious beliefs?
by Listener injohn cedars has posted his latest blog "the trouble with apostates (and why it shouldn't put you off becoming one)".
i acknowledge that he is entitled to his opionin just as we are ours but i am disappointed in some of his comments.. at this stage i'll try to be objective about it.
he is defending his own position after all.. what bothers me most is his comments about athiests and christians which he seems to identify as being in conflict with each other.
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snugglebunny: Everything is done and said with an end goal in mind - the eventual adoration of those around him.
I believe you meant, "... adoration from those around him."
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CEDARS (Again) Is it really about religious beliefs?
by Listener injohn cedars has posted his latest blog "the trouble with apostates (and why it shouldn't put you off becoming one)".
i acknowledge that he is entitled to his opionin just as we are ours but i am disappointed in some of his comments.. at this stage i'll try to be objective about it.
he is defending his own position after all.. what bothers me most is his comments about athiests and christians which he seems to identify as being in conflict with each other.
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Simon: Some people don't like to be criticized or challenged and the thing they 'know' to deal with it is to apply a label to those being critical so they can be dismissed
Excellent point!
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CEDARS (Again) Is it really about religious beliefs?
by Listener injohn cedars has posted his latest blog "the trouble with apostates (and why it shouldn't put you off becoming one)".
i acknowledge that he is entitled to his opionin just as we are ours but i am disappointed in some of his comments.. at this stage i'll try to be objective about it.
he is defending his own position after all.. what bothers me most is his comments about athiests and christians which he seems to identify as being in conflict with each other.
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A bitter war between the evangelical and atheist factions in the ex-JW community is raging – and it has just escalated. - Lloyd Evans aka John Cedars
This is an example of the over-the-top, sensationalist and inflammatory rhetoric typical of Cedar's journalistic style.
A lot of people have expressed that they really appreciate and have benefited from his work, but there are also quite of few of us that are put off by his approach.
As The Rebel wrote above, "My personal option of Cedars website is that it is not for me, however like with newspapers I have plenty of choices available." We don't have to read it if we don't like it.
That being said, what is of interest to me is how some respond to any criticism at all of the methods he employs in his activism. These responses often come with a peculiar viciousness disproportionate to the initial criticisms. They are generally emotional attacks that fail to even acknowledge, let alone address the issues raised. If the past is any indication of what may happen in the future, I wouldn't be the least be surprised to receive some personal attacks for writing even this. We'll see what we shall see. Whatever.
My take is this: Cedars puts him self out there publicly as a highly-visible activist, yet he often complains when he encounters any criticism or opposition.
Here in the U.S. we have an expression: If you can't stand the heat, get the hell out of the kitchen!
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Merry Pantsmas Everyone!
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite inokay, i posted this in a thread that got locked and buried.
since then i've been really busy and have overdosed on christmas music in the past week.
so, i'm resurrecting this "holy day" holiday that most people will unknowingly be celebrating tomorrow.
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Day-um, Talesin!
I'm liking those too!
Let me know when you tail's in a pair of those!!!
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Merry Pantsmas Everyone!
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite inokay, i posted this in a thread that got locked and buried.
since then i've been really busy and have overdosed on christmas music in the past week.
so, i'm resurrecting this "holy day" holiday that most people will unknowingly be celebrating tomorrow.
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Oubliette
Just make sure they're nice and tight, and don't forget your crazy socks!!!
Panta Claus is coming to town!
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A Seal Ring bearing King Hezekiah's found in Jerusalem excavation, with ankh symbol and winged sun
by fulltimestudent infrom a story in the jewish press:.
quote: "the city of david excavations of the jerusalem hebrew university on mount ophel, at the foot of the southern wall of the temple mount compound, have yielded a sensational discovery: a seal (bulla) with the name of king hezekiah (727-698 bce).".
"king hezekiahs bulla was discovered in a garbage heap that was dumped during or shortly after hezekiahs time, from a royal building that was used to store food.
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VI, the king is dead. Long live the King! -
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A Seal Ring bearing King Hezekiah's found in Jerusalem excavation, with ankh symbol and winged sun
by fulltimestudent infrom a story in the jewish press:.
quote: "the city of david excavations of the jerusalem hebrew university on mount ophel, at the foot of the southern wall of the temple mount compound, have yielded a sensational discovery: a seal (bulla) with the name of king hezekiah (727-698 bce).".
"king hezekiahs bulla was discovered in a garbage heap that was dumped during or shortly after hezekiahs time, from a royal building that was used to store food.
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Interesting. Pretty amazing if it really belonged to Hezekiah. The "pagan" symbols have pretty profound implications for a King that allegedly cleaned up Judah:
2 Kings 18: 2 - 4 He was twenty-five years old when he became king, and he reigned twenty-nine years in Jerusalem, and his mother’s name was Abi the daughter of Zechariah. And he did what was right in the eyes of the Lord, like all that his father David had done. He abolished the high places, and smashed the monuments, and cut down the asherah, and crushed the copper serpent that Moses had made, for until those days the children of Israel were burning incense to it; and he called it Nehushtan.
But I gotta ask: Why would this be in a garbage heap?
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The Elders are Coming Help!
by LaurenM inso the elders keep bugging me and pestering me about having a meeting with them to "introduce me to my new congregation" for some reason (do any ex elders know what that even means??).
i keep postponing and making excuses and they are getting more and more aggressive.
i finally agreed for them to come over today, but really don't want to..should i hide from them again?
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The elders only have the authority over you which you give them.
You might appreciate this thread by 00DAD:
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YMCA ? Are we allowed to go there or not?
by Quarterback inhalf of our congregation goes there to work out because of the good pool facilities and prices, and the other half think that it's wrong due to it's old charter.
but no one is enforcing the wrong or right of it.
i'd be interested in knowing how this is being applied worldwide.
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Sure, go. Enjoy yourself.
If anyone gives you crap about it say, "First of all, it's none of your f*$king business what I do. But since you're all wound up, let me ask you a question, 'Did you know the WTBTS had a library card at the U.N. for over a decade?'"
Let's review: It's a cult!
You need to stop worrying about what other people think and start thinking for yourself.