Posts by Slavenomore

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My quick introduction

by Adam Believed in

hi, all.. ive been lurking and reading for many months now.

i have been an active member of jwrecovery for sometime now.

its iphone friendly!

You sound like a straight shooter Adam, welcome aboard, I am also new here and enjoy reading peoples viewpoints and stories. Let us know when the elders get around to investigating you and your lovely wife, as you know they will if they here even a whisper of criticism or for daring to think freely and questioning matters that disturb both of you. I remember one sister that i investigated for the body she had her son sit on santas lap. That was it the hounds smelled blood. There is a boatload of advice on how to do it right and how not to. I wish I had learned about this site before I got involved with my JC but hey...

Slavenomore

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Ciao

by Franco185 in

hello a warm greeting to all, i am writing with google translator, i am a former jehovah's witness, who grew up as a baby in this cult and unfortunately stayed there for many years.

i have my parents still active jw.

now happily out of this organization and are very active in exposing this false religious cult - deceptive trade.

Slavenomore

benvenuto Franco, mantenere il buon lavoro!

Slavenomore

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AAWA is here!! (The Association of Anti-Watchtower Activists)

by cedars in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.

http://www.jwactivists.org.

facebook the association of anti-watchtower activists.

Slavenomore

As my lastpost for the day, cedars and all the others who worked together on this , you rock. May I be brazen to suggest a parody of wiki leaks how about witness leaks or witne leaks. I don't know how you find the time? Keep up the great and now truly innovative work.

Slavenomore

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BROTHERS & SISTERS - READ THE BROCHURE!

by The Searcher in

jesus always used illustrations to help people reason on the import of what he was saying.

here is an illustration followed by a reality;.

imagine that your heart went out to all those poor people who suffered when fukushima blew up, so much so, that when an internationally renowned charity asked for donations to help those in need, you donated $5000 to the cause.

Slavenomore

ADCMS,

Yea I remember those announcements. It never moved me to give one penny...absolutely bogus money grab. It just made me think the TTATT is hidden in plain sight! What about those lunch encroaching stupid elduh meetings at the ass halls, the ones where we agreed to make up the difference for the inevitable shortfall in donations by plying more money from the Congo in an enforced per publisher donation arrangement? I had a few conversations will some younger elduhs about it, it seemed that didn't pass the sniff test for many.

The searcher,

The cost of remodeling and building is so often much more expensive then bringing in a private GC to to the job. In a local hall the brothers went head to head with the RBC about that, since they got an outside quote (totally against theocrapic direction mind you) and the outside quote was 60000$ cheaper. They turned down the request to have their hall remodeled. I guess their old purple wallpaper vrs the new purple wallpaper was not worth the 220000 remodel to them.

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Differences Between JWs in the US and Europe

by BU2B in

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there are many cultural differences between the general population of the us and europe, what about jws?

i have heard about such things as beards being allowed, movies that a jw cant watch in the us or would be frowned upon watching being ok, same with tv shows, and even the way they dress in public.

seems more laid back over there if this is true.. any truth to this?

Slavenomore

Since America was founded essentially by the religious fanatics from England and northern Europe...the puritans annabaptists basic run of the mill zealots and millennialists...these folks were given a one way ticket and a boot in their arse to get here...because of that it can be a function of our culture to be more puritanical in view, perhaps explaining subtle differences with TnA.

I lived in England as a kid, born there actually and visited quite often when I got here in 1979. My family was as non religious as can be. Taboos though amongst the older generation like my grandparents still abide in their social Peergroup... I visited Germany, italy and England later on as a witness. I didnt see much of a difference. At least in Germany I remember having a good time drinking with the friends. But then again we drank and partied here in Binghamton too. When I was in India as a witness(second trip) it was as if I hadn't left America. In fact on the Sunday I showed up at the KH I was asked to help a sister move! A bit of an adventure in Bombay. But still in all it was carrying couches and tvs downstairs and across town and then back up stairs. I didn't see any beards, or notice anything out of the ordinary, in fact it was anther nail in the coffin of my indoctrination...worldwide society BS. Just my 2 cents.

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Newbie Here- but I've been here the whole time

by TheDarksideHasCalledMe in

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friends

my wife and in-laws are now here and i'm on now.

i'm going to copy and paste my first post from jwstruggle...... my story is, i grew up as a jw.

my parents found out later on and didn't tell anyone.

Slavenomore

The dark side ain't what it used to be,

I read your story. Thanks for expressing yourself...Your wife sounds truly incredible. Slave no more, You are free from the cult and that if anything is reason to stand up, pat yourself on the back and celebrate. Sounds like you have a book in the making with such tragedy to such a transformation. Keep writing. Many people here have had similar experiences in their childhood. But As I was reading I could help but think of this song from staind. To me it seemed relevant, forgive me if it is not.

Song: Outside

Lyrics:

And you
Bring me to my knees
Again
All the times
That I could beg you please
In vain
All the times
That I felt insecure
For you
And I leave
My burdens at the door

But I'm on the outside
I'm looking in
I can see through you
See your true colors
'Cause inside your ugly
You're ugly like me
I can see through you
See to the real you

All the times
That I felt like this won't end
It's for you
And I taste
What I could never have
It was from you
All the times
That I've cried
My intentions
Full of pride
But I waste
More time than anyone

But I'm on the outside
And I'm looking in
I can see through you
See your true colors
'Cause inside you're ugly
You're ugly like me
I can see through you
See to the real you

All the times
That I've cried
All this wasted
It's all inside
And I feel
All this pain
Stuffed it down
It's back again
And I lie
Here in bed
All alone
I can't mend
But I feel
Tomorrow will be OK

But I'm on the outside
And I'm looking in
I can see through you
See your true colors
'Cause inside you're ugly
You're ugly like me
I can see through you

See to the real you

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BROTHERS & SISTERS - READ THE BROCHURE!

by The Searcher in

jesus always used illustrations to help people reason on the import of what he was saying.

here is an illustration followed by a reality;.

imagine that your heart went out to all those poor people who suffered when fukushima blew up, so much so, that when an internationally renowned charity asked for donations to help those in need, you donated $5000 to the cause.

Slavenomore

The searcher

Your OP is right on the money! Pun intended. Thankfully I never donated more than a few hundred dollars to the Borg but that was more than they deserve. I figured they are very wealthy own Brooklyn. But the dollar amount on all my driving, tools and time...priceless. I would recommend to anyone to stop working on the RBC and stop donating immediately. I'll never forget when I was given hospitality at a Chinese restaurant in Ithaca, NY and a man who I recognized from the hall was eating alone at another table. I asked him to join us, to the obvious pain of my righteous host. He was the one who enlightened me about the RBC scam with the constant churning of remodels and new builds that happened every month! I thought...interesting, it's only after I left that I put two and two together. I thank that man for trying to get me to think about the lie. My friend who is still in the org but fading, met a bro out in napa valley. He had a wine cellar that was larger than most houses. Quite a spread. His job... As a realtor....selling off assembly halls and buying land for new ones...all over the globe. He saw the racket and got his piece of the pie...apparently it was quite a slice.

ADCMS

two words...insurance fraud...hopefully you are not volunteering anymore? It would be one thing if the Borg gave willingly to orphans and widows but since they have no underwriters they are S O O L. Book of James...we don't need no stinking James...

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I'm officially INACTIVE....Cheers!!!!

by Gojira_101 in

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friends

well i'm sorry i've been absent, it's been a rough few weeks and still having to work....i ended up having a nice happy surprise by having the day off, so i'm finally going to get caught up on things.. .

april 1st was my 6 months of not reporting service time and i am officially inactive now.

i think my hubby and i are going to celebrate!

Slavenomore

Your inactivity will be rewarded! Now enjoy your liberation celebration!

Slavenomore

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BROTHERS & SISTERS - READ THE BROCHURE!

by The Searcher in

jesus always used illustrations to help people reason on the import of what he was saying.

here is an illustration followed by a reality;.

imagine that your heart went out to all those poor people who suffered when fukushima blew up, so much so, that when an internationally renowned charity asked for donations to help those in need, you donated $5000 to the cause.

Slavenomore

Adcms,

Ivolunteered for the relief effort in december after Katrina and Rita hit. And you are correct, the insured homes were the first on the list to be "repaired". It was all roofing. One roof had 2 or 3 shingles blown off. I was in charge of the tear off crew, since i had a large truck and tools, I called the brother in charge and said this roof does not need anything other than a minor repair. His words to me we're "we have been given instructions to replace the roof, the home is insured and that the check will be used to help other homes uninsured, so tear it off." when I reported back to th group of about 40, this there was absolute amazement. Some brothers were visibly upset as I was. We tore it off, the second of the day. Just think what could have happened? 40 mostly unskilled volunteers tearing off a roof and then another 40-50 putting it down. Thankfully no one got hurt. But what a waste and for what? Money. We did 14 roofs in a week. At $10000 a roof(give or take) $140000. So much for your donations. The WTB$ got money and labor from us dim dubs and then got a healthy insurance payout. What a racket!?

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Getting serious for Julia!!

by Julia Orwell in

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no, there's no jc scheduled for me, though i've heard from a friend on the boe that the inquisitor is about to get inquisited himself.

you will see who i mean in this thread: .

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/246766/1/julias-inquisition-two-elders-the-full-version-i-want-you-all-to-see-this.

Slavenomore

Mrs Orwell,

I have read your unfolding drama with great interest. Thank you for giving such an accounting of your experience as I am sure it will help others in a similar boat. I have to say all the comments that have been posted to you are really good advice. Armed with this knowledge you will fare well in whatever direction you choose at this point. And it will be your choice. That's the beauty of life. We can choose what we do, when awake to reality. Much like platos cave we have come out and have seen the figurative sunlight. You are a brave one to go back into the cave to help your hubby and others.

I am sure you already know but I'll say it anyway. The elder body has already discussed your case. They have deep suspicions about you. The CO if he visits you(thankfully it was canceled) will be not for encouragement nor to hear what you think about the snake. It will be an investigation. And they will return to the body and recommend a JC. If half are on snakes side your DF is a foregone conclusion. You are guilty and have to prove your innocence. It's a sick and twisted world that elduhs live in. It sounds like a clean break is not what you are gunning for. So never, never meet with two or more elduhs. Also for you info, since we had a similar case in our body, They will try to talk on the phone with you to catch you unaware and guess what it will be ...a conference call. So if you want to fade do not express your real feelings with sparky or anyone of the elduhs on the phone.

not to minimize your experience but it's like a religious thriller really, Fredrick Forsyth style, smoke and mirrors and the inquisition of Julia Orwell! One girls quest to navigate through the theocratic maze of mirrors Her only crime: she thought for herself!

Slavenomore