Either France is too chicken to join the US and Britain, or they will wait until a terrorist blows up something in France. Then they might wake up!
Posts by JH
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France is a "Pain in the Ass"
by JH ini changed my topic to this:.
why does france always go against britain and us policies?
should we still consider france as an ally?
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Paying for the Kingdom Hall
by JH inin the late 80's, our hall was built and it cost about 150,000$ canadian.
every month, we had to give a certain amount to pay for the hall.
after 3 or 4 years, we still owed 135,000 for the hall.
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JH
In the late 80's, our hall was built and it cost about 150,000$ canadian. Every month, we had to give a certain amount to pay for the hall. After 3 or 4 years, we still owed 135,000 for the hall. It just didn't figure out.
Since the interest rate was very high in the late 80's, a brother told me that probably the elders put the money in a bank account and kept the interest.
In other words, the elders gave to the Watchtower the right amount that we gave for paying the hall, but would have kept the interest money.
After 6 or 7 years, finally the amount that we owed for the hall was coming down fast enough.
Is this possible, or did we speculate?
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One question that would make you think....
by Dawn inno jw's have been to my door for years because they all know where i live - my mom drives by with her "car group" and points out our house, even stops to use the potty or get a pop.
silly - i know, but mom doesn't seem to care about the shunning thing (thank goodness).. anyways - hubby and i have bought a new house and will be moving out of this congregation's area soon.
it's a brand new house in a new area so i'm sure it'll get worked fairly quickly (new blood on the block).
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JH
I would ask them, what do they make of the new generation definition?
And how does it affect older witnesses?
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GOOD MORNING!
by Yerusalyim ingood morning folks.
before i get into contention with anyone today i wanted to wish you all a wonderful day, week, month, and year.. after being pretty depressed this weekend, and into this morning i'm feeling better.
two things lay behind this; i went to mass this morning, which is almost always a pick-me-up; and i start instructing a new class today.. the depression was just as a result of dealing with my wife and her mental illness.
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JH
Have a nice day too Yerusalyim.
I'm glad that things are going better for you now.
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France is a "Pain in the Ass"
by JH ini changed my topic to this:.
why does france always go against britain and us policies?
should we still consider france as an ally?
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JH
I changed my topic to this:
Why does France always go against Britain and US policies? Should we still consider France as an ally? They love to go their way and ignore US and Britain's way of thinking.
France Vows to Block Resolution on Iraq War
U.S. Schedule Put at Risk By U.N. DebateBy Glenn Kessler and Colum Lynch
Washington Post Staff Writers
Tuesday, January 21, 2003; Page A01UNITED NATIONS, Jan. 20 -- France suggested today it would wage a major diplomatic fight, including possible use of its veto power, to prevent the U.N. Security Council from passing a resolution authorizing military action against Iraq.
France's opposition to a war, emphatically delivered here by Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin, is a major blow for the Bush administration, which has begun pouring tens of thousands of troops into the Persian Gulf in preparation for a military conflict this spring. The administration had hoped to mark the final phase in its confrontation with Iraq when U.N. weapons inspectors deliver a progress report Monday.
But in a diplomatic version of an ambush, France and other countries used a high-level Security Council meeting on terrorism to lay down their markers for the debate that will commence next week on the inspectors' report. Russia and China, which have veto power, and Germany, which will chair the Security Council in February, also signaled today they were willing to let the inspections continue for months.
Only Britain appeared to openly support the U.S. position that Iraqi President Saddam Hussein has thwarted effective inspections.
"If war is the only way to resolve this problem, we are going down a dead end," de Villepin told reporters. "Already we know for a fact that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs are being largely blocked, even frozen. We must do everything possible to strengthen this process."
The United Nations, he said, should stay "on the path of cooperation. The other choice is to move forward out of impatience over a situation in Iraq to move towards military intervention. We believe that today nothing justifies envisaging military action."
Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, in the face of such comments, departed from his prepared text on terrorism and implored his colleagues to remember that the Security Council resolution passed unanimously Nov. 8 gave Iraq "a last chance" to meet its obligations. "We must not shrink from our duties and our responsibilities when the material comes before us next week," Powell said. He used a variation of the phrase "must not shrink" three more times as he addressed the council.
During the weeks of debate on the Iraq resolution, French officials had indicated they were open to some sort of military intervention if Iraq did not comply. But now the French appear to have set much higher hurdles for support.
Rising opposition to war, particularly in France, appears to have played a role in the hardening positions on the Security Council. Foreign officials are also aware of polls in the United States suggesting that support for a war drops dramatically if the Bush administration does not have U.N. approval.
While the United Nations was debating today, U.S. military officials announced that the Army is sending a force of about 37,000 soldiers, spearheaded by the Texas-based 4th Infantry Division, to the Persian Gulf region. It is the largest ground force identified among an estimated 125,000 U.S. troops ordered to deploy since Christmas Eve, the Associated Press reported.
At the United Nations, several foreign ministers said a war in Iraq would spawn more terrorist acts around the globe and, in the words of Germany's Joschka Fischer, have "disastrous consequences for long-term regional stability."
"Terrorism is far from being crushed," said Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov. "We must be careful not to take unilateral steps that might threaten the unity of the entire [anti-]terrorism coalition. In this context we are strictly in favor of a political settlement of the situation revolving around Iraq."
Powell replied: "We cannot fail to take the action that may be necessary because we are afraid of what others might do. We cannot be shocked into impotence because we are afraid of the difficult choices that are ahead of us."
But when the foreign ministers emerged from the council debate and addressed reporters, it appeared that Powell's pleas had made little impact. Although President Bush said last week he was "sick and tired of games and deception," Fischer said the inspections were a success.
"Iraq has complied fully with all relevant resolutions and cooperated very closely with the U.N. team on the ground," Fischer said. "We think things are moving in the right direction, based on the efforts of the inspection team, and [they] should have all the time which is needed."
Chinese Foreign Minister Tang Jiaxuan said Monday's report should be regarded as a "new beginning" rather than an end to inspections. The chief weapons inspectors "have been talking about that there is more work to do in terms of the inspections and they need more time. I think we should respect their opinion and support their work."
De Villepin, in a lengthy and at times theatrical news conference, was asked whether France would use its veto power to thwart Washington's campaign for quick action. He said France "will shoulder its responsibilities, faithful to the principles it has."
France would never "associate ourselves with military intervention that is not supported by the international community," de Villepin added. "We think that military intervention would be the worst possible solution."
France, as chair of the Security Council this month, had organized today's meeting on terrorism in part to draw attention to its contention that the Iraq situation has detracted from the more pressing need to confront international terrorism.
De Villepin reacted coolly to suggestions, made by senior Bush administration officials Sunday, that Hussein and his top advisers be offered political asylum outside Iraq to avert a war. "The problem is something more difficult than a question of change of regime," he said. "Let us not be diverted from our objective. It is the disarmament of Iraq."
U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan also indirectly criticized the prospect of war when he addressed the council on terrorism. "Any sacrifice of freedom or the rule of law within states -- or any generation of new disputes between states in the name of anti-terrorism -- is to hand the terrorists a victory that no act of theirs could possibly bring," he said, alluding to frequent U.S. assertions that the confrontation with Iraq is part of the larger war on terrorism.
The only sign of support for the U.S. position came from its closest ally, Britain. Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said "time was running out" for Hussein and his "cat and mouse" game. But Straw added that Britain preferred a U.N. resolution authorizing force.
"Iraq has a responsibility now to avoid a conflict, to avoid a war," Powell told reporters. "There is no question that Iraq continues to misunderstand the seriousness of the position that it's in.
"If the United Nations is going to be relevant," he added, "it has to take a firm stand."
2003 The Washington Post Company
Edited by - jh on 21 January 2003 18:22:19
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anyone playing chess?
by Realist in.
in case anyone likes to play chess.... here is the best online chess program i know.... http://www.blitzin.com/download.
and its completely free if you don't register a name!
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JH
I like to play CHEST
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Why are JW's black and blue?
by Bhagavad inbecause they have 5 beatings a week.
edited by - bhagavad on 20 january 2003 18:24:29.
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As a Dub, did you neglect your health?
by JH in.
when you were an active jw, did you neglect your health because the end was just around the corner.. many witnesses never went to see a doctor for a check up, because they actually believed that the end was a few months away.
we all know that sicknesses are cured if treated early, but you have to see the doctor on a regular basis for that.. did you neglect your health when you were a jw because you felt that the end was too close?
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JH
When you were an active JW, did you neglect your health because the end was just around the corner.
Many witnesses never went to see a doctor for a check up, because they actually believed that the end was a few months away.
We all know that sicknesses are cured if treated early, but you have to see the doctor on a regular basis for that.
Did you neglect your health when you were a JW because you felt that the end was too close?
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What is your job/career? Like it?
by ashitaka ini'm a deskside support guy working for a service company, at one of their contracts.
i enjoy fixing things, although some of the customers could use a good knock on the skull sometimes.. i make pretty decent money for what i am doing.. for me, it's what i've wanted to do my whole life.
i had a computer from the time i was born, and love it since then.. what do you guys do to bring home the bacon?.
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JH
I am a double agent, working for the Watchtower Society. My job is to get as much information on anyone here.
If you could all give me more information on yourselves, I would be grateful.
I'm keeping a close eye on all of you. The eye that you see in the corner is actually a camera looking at you, watching your every move.
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Handicapped people can't be saved !
by JH inthe mentally and physically handicapped aren't abundant in the kingdom halls.
if the jw religion is the only one that saves, then mentally and physically handicapped won't be saved.
wouldn't it be right to see more handicapped people, if indeed they have the truth?
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JH
Watchtower Conclusion is: Survival of the fittest