Posts by GodZoo

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Going to a bad place when i die

by 060702015 in

i've thought and said too much to ever gain jehovahs forgiveness and love if i want to be a christian again.

i made a topic on my unforgivable sin and blaspemy of the holy spirit.. i feel saddness everyday having no relationship with god, no religion and fear of the afterlife.

even when i was kid i feared death and the end of the world.

GodZoo

I feel it in my spirit in my deep soul, that GOD doesn't love me and will never love me again.

What exactly did you think you did that was so wrong?

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Going to a bad place when i die

by 060702015 in

i've thought and said too much to ever gain jehovahs forgiveness and love if i want to be a christian again.

i made a topic on my unforgivable sin and blaspemy of the holy spirit.. i feel saddness everyday having no relationship with god, no religion and fear of the afterlife.

even when i was kid i feared death and the end of the world.

GodZoo

Hey I would not beat yourself over it so much. You're only human and according to the Bible that does not really count for much.

I studied for years every single day.. special pioneered doing sometimes up to 270 hours a month, attended and participated in every single meeting without fail and read and studied every single piece of literature the society ever printed almost all the while remaining in good standing etc etc..

Yet I did it all without ever managing to acquire any kind of real relationship with either God or Jesus.

I can never recall really ever had a prayer answered, never was aware of ever having received help from any kind of spirit being for my acute depression, isolation and paralysing feeling of being utterly disconnected and agonisingly and desolately lonely while the entire time slogging myself to utter exhaustion trying to please God yet feeling nothing but complete worthlessness and inadequacy almost all my years in the organisation.

It was not until some years after leaving that I realised how actually could I ever commit an unforgivable sin against a being I have never actually even known?

Seriously offending God or Jesus can actually only really occur if you have met, known communed with or experienced both or either.

Only people like Adam, Abraham, Moses, the Apostles, Peter, Paul etc, etc can commit a mortal or unforgivable sin.. because they apparently have heard, seen, met, experienced, were spoken to, touched or were directly touched by God or Jesus..

I'm guessing that you too have not been.

Stop hating yourself in your own mind for crimes you are simply unable to commit.

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Why are none of the 'Governing Body' being summoned to any of the abuse commissions?

by GodZoo in

i'm not sure if this has been covered but i'm wondering why none of the gb are being requested at or formally summoned to any of the australian abuse commissions or other investigations that are taking place around the world?

they after all are the ones single handedly responsible for making and enforcing all the rules that are the sole cause of all these abuses and problems.. why are they just keeping their silent distance and leaving all the ill-equipped and sadly incompetent local elders exposed to take the full public blast, criticism and humiliation for all that is now being brought out in these investigations?

how are they seemingly able to sit cosy in their ivory tower immune and unaccountable?.

GodZoo

I'm not sure if this has been covered but I'm wondering why none of the GB are being requested at or formally summoned to any of the Australian Abuse Commissions or other investigations that are taking place around the world? They after all are the ones single handedly responsible for making and enforcing all the rules that are the sole cause of all these abuses and problems.

Why are they just keeping their silent distance and leaving all the ill-equipped and sadly incompetent local elders exposed to take the full public blast, criticism and humiliation for all that is now being brought out in these investigations? How are they seemingly able to sit cosy in their ivory tower immune and unaccountable?

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Need best info on why Jesus could never have chosen org in 1918?

by GodZoo in

hi folks... i was playing a tiny online ipad multiplayer war game last night and one started a dialogue with a another player i was attacking.

in it he quoted a scripture.. and it turns out he he is a 25 year serving jw.

possibly an elder... well.. i spent 6 hours tapping away with one finger in the chat box until 8am this morning with him about all the issues on sex abuse, the money grab and most importantly the subject of jesus turning his attention to the earth and selecting the then bibles students as his one and only people based on what they were teaching (spiritual food) back then.. he knows nothing about any of the current and historic child sex abuse cases (never heard of candice conti etc) and even less about the insane early teachings or russell etc.. i completely blew his mind in our 6 hour text chat not to mention my index finger nearly falling off!.

GodZoo

Thank you all very much for all the great responses, info, links and suggestions! I will go through each and gather the data I need for this fellow.

It's true though that I'm not out to convert or de-convert anyone including him but but I'm more then happy to simply drop these facts into his brain and let him do what he wills with it.

It's also very therapeutic for me too to be able to disarm and hamstring these false ideas that we were all fed on a ladle.

Much appreciated folks :)

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Need best info on why Jesus could never have chosen org in 1918?

by GodZoo in

hi folks... i was playing a tiny online ipad multiplayer war game last night and one started a dialogue with a another player i was attacking.

in it he quoted a scripture.. and it turns out he he is a 25 year serving jw.

possibly an elder... well.. i spent 6 hours tapping away with one finger in the chat box until 8am this morning with him about all the issues on sex abuse, the money grab and most importantly the subject of jesus turning his attention to the earth and selecting the then bibles students as his one and only people based on what they were teaching (spiritual food) back then.. he knows nothing about any of the current and historic child sex abuse cases (never heard of candice conti etc) and even less about the insane early teachings or russell etc.. i completely blew his mind in our 6 hour text chat not to mention my index finger nearly falling off!.

GodZoo

Oh.. and accurate info on the sale value of the Brooklyn real estate please. He seems to think it all went for only $370 million. Not the billion I have read in here which is what the org is telling them..

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Need best info on why Jesus could never have chosen org in 1918?

by GodZoo in

hi folks... i was playing a tiny online ipad multiplayer war game last night and one started a dialogue with a another player i was attacking.

in it he quoted a scripture.. and it turns out he he is a 25 year serving jw.

possibly an elder... well.. i spent 6 hours tapping away with one finger in the chat box until 8am this morning with him about all the issues on sex abuse, the money grab and most importantly the subject of jesus turning his attention to the earth and selecting the then bibles students as his one and only people based on what they were teaching (spiritual food) back then.. he knows nothing about any of the current and historic child sex abuse cases (never heard of candice conti etc) and even less about the insane early teachings or russell etc.. i completely blew his mind in our 6 hour text chat not to mention my index finger nearly falling off!.

GodZoo

Hi folks..

I was playing a tiny online ipad multiplayer war game last night and one started a dialogue with a another player I was attacking. In it he quoted a scripture.. and it turns out he he is a 25 year serving JW. Possibly an elder..

Well.. I spent 6 hours tapping away with one finger in the chat box until 8am this morning with him about all the issues on sex abuse, the money grab and most importantly the subject of Jesus turning his attention to the earth and selecting the then Bibles students as his one and only people based on what they were teaching (spiritual food) back then.

He knows nothing about any of the current and historic child sex abuse cases (never heard of Candice Conti etc) and even less about the insane early teachings or Russell etc.

I completely blew his mind in our 6 hour text chat not to mention my index finger nearly falling off!

So.. we have now moved over to email dialogue and I want to send him the single best article on the utter impossibility of Jesus having selected that group of people for anything. This guy's mind is wide open to being woken up! He is gagging for information and I could feel his mind going into complete meltdown from the things I was sharing with him.

What do you think would be the best article to show him on this topic without scaring him off and causing his mind to slam shut?

How about this one?

http://corior.blogspot.com/2006/02/was-watchtower-society-chosen-by-jesus.html

Any suggestions welcome. Thank you.

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GB Permits Texas Two-Step on Kingdom Hall Stage, etc.

by TakeOffTheCrown in

the governing body not writing their own articles is on this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/370640004/gb-providing-food-helpers-write-articles?size=10&page=1.

but, something more sinister, more serious is taking place in the congregations.

the governing body have allowed very disturbing activities to take place in the kingdom halls and during the conventions.

GodZoo

That bethel hop video is so embarrassingly cringeworthy I could not even watch it all.

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Massive Growth in Dub Numbers???

by 1rebelheart in

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friends

so, i left about 5 years ago and at that time, the official ruling on number of members was a little over 6 million.

i google jw out of boredom the other day and find they are now claiming 8 million members.

sooooo.... hold on 2 million increase in 5 years?

GodZoo

Reality Check

Massive growth in numbers? A couple of million? Let's put that into perspective shall we?

The Org.. which has millions of cult foot soldiers plodding round the planet nonstop 24/7 peddling the most widely published magazine in the history humankind in every country on earth with a 130 year head start.

Result? A couple of million more cult members.

Now. Facebook.. which does nothing to promote itself.. has no literature or magazine or no promotion whatsoever..

Yet, by the end of 2013, Facebook boasted 1.23bn monthly active users worldwide, adding 170m in just one year. According to Facebook, 757m users log on to Facebook daily, as of 31 December 2013.

Now that's what I would call Massive Growth.

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YHWH Demoted from Desert God, to be Known as the Tennis God Now!

by freemindfade in

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/serena-williams-secret-weapon-jehovah-god_55a06ed9e4b0ecec71bc445b.

serena williams' secret weapon: 'jehovah god'.

GodZoo

Sorry just had to share this again... The faithful servant Sister Williams.

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How the Watchtower Screws Up Your View of Scripture

by CalebInFloroda in

while i do not argue the stand of atheism (because as a jew i find it totally logical and acceptable), i have noticed that there are odd carryover preconceptions about scripture that some hold as axiomatic about the bible (at least the hebrew texts), misconceptions that have nothing to do with the jewish scriptures themselves.. so regardless of what you may think of scripture, whether you believe it is of g-d or not, i thought some of you might enjoy a reference to see how much the watchtower teaching on scripture might still be influencing the conclusions you are making today...at least about the tanakh.

jews read their texts acknowledging the following:.

1. no scriptural concept of original sin.

GodZoo

How the Watchtower Screws Up Your View of Scripture

.. and everything else in life for that matter..