Posts by GodZoo

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Silent And Sweet Rebellion Going On Within JW Organization!

by lsw1961 in

after 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.

but some left the organization.

however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..

GodZoo

Humility and non-cooperation with the arrogant is more powerful than a world war. Haven’t you heard of a man in India (named MK Gandhi) who brought to kneel the British Empire (that was ruling 2/3 of the earth at that time with iron rod) through his peaceful method called non-cooperation?

War? Who said anything about war.. many here are just encouraging you to stop being a dishonest coward and stand up in the hall and say what you truly believe if indeed you even truly believe it. This is not war.. it's just being real.

Now you presume to compare yourself Gandhi.. no he did not use war, but he certainly was not afraid to stand up and be counted.. Unlike yourself.

Confrontation can only create some disfellowshippings, and accomplishes nothing!

You mean your own...

The very phrase “stand up and be counted” conjures up the vision of someone bravely accepting a challenge by choosing to end his comfortable season of inaction and taking steps that will draw the notice of all within eyeshot. Other phrases in our language carry similar imagery (“Who will stand with me?” or “Are you with me?”). Usually there is a price to be paid for such bravery though its cost is perceived to be less than the cost of inaction and its attendant consequences.

I found another interesting paragraph concerning standing up and being counted..

When people attacked Jesus and accused Him falsely, He remained totally non defensive and said nothing because He had nothing to hide. On the other hand, when people misused the house of God and used people for their own ends, or tried to hide their hypocrisy behind a facade of religious piety, or loved their man–made legalistic rules more than they loved people, Jesus spoke out against them in no uncertain terms.

The bottom line is our motive. Jesus always did what He did because He loved God and He loved people. He attacked evil and wrong head on because it was destructive to those whom God loves.

Conclusion: Your cowardice lack of any true sincerity is blatantly obvious. You ignore the very scriptures you claim to believe and live by and even the example of Jesus himself and attempt to weasel your way into said Kingdom by cowardly artifice, craft and your own constructed scheming.

Yeah good luck with that..

They got to pretend to be a JW in some capacity to fly under the radar here.

Pretending to be anything that you are truly not involves all kinds of pretence, deception, being false and out and out lying on a daily basis. Well.. I don't know about any of you but to me any kind of lying defeats the entire object of everything.

What a grand and utter farce..

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Silent And Sweet Rebellion Going On Within JW Organization!

by lsw1961 in

after 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.

but some left the organization.

however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..

GodZoo

You say “I see avoiding actual discussion is your style.”
It has nothing to do with “avoiding discussion;” the fact is that there is nothing to discuss. Because...

Of course because he's just looking for supporters of his preaching. Every single statement, comment, question or fact is simply ignored.. just as they do when knocking on doors.

2) Second is who will inherit the Kingdom? There is no better quality than compassion (Mathew 9:13; 25:31-40) which everyone will agree to. For this too there is no discussion needed.

You speak for everyone and God too? You forgot to include cowards and liars..

Revelation 21:8

"But the cowardly, ..... and all liars--they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulphur. This is the second death."

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Silent And Sweet Rebellion Going On Within JW Organization!

by lsw1961 in

after 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.

but some left the organization.

however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..

GodZoo

Distracted: I'm wondering why this thread got rather contentious??? It doesn't make sense to me. I thought this group was open to people of various stages of awareness and positions.

lsw1961 holds no power in anything... he is deluded in thinking he is part of some special 'enlightened rebellion class' prophet that have special and secret knowledge.

I find it ironic and even cowardly that he comes on here preaching his own unique brand of 'secret truth' among apostates with endless illustrations of the JW Organisation being like a worm, or butterfly or car or whatever and communicating with his inner circle using a combination of telepathy and holy spirit and some kind of Tai Chi while all the while remaining neck deep in this very same organisation which it appears he wants to change covertly from the inside. New wine into old wineskins anyone? Then there is the sheer arrogance and lack of humility and lack of love he displays where several times he snubs his nose at those that do not have his special and unique brand of 'enlightenment'.

If he is genuine and truly sincere why does he not do what Jesus would do and stand up in the kingdom hall and simply speak his mind about what he truly believes if he really believes it. Jesus turned over tables and whipped people in a similar situation. He did not sit in silence saying: "Hey I know something you don't fools".

Instead he enjoys life in the kingdom hall with all it's benefits while busily cultivating his alter-ego persona in here with complete anonymity among devils.

Instead of trying to save his lost and deceived brothers and sisters in his own congregation he actually scorns their ignorance but instead he comes here and spouts off to those that have already saved themselves from the clutches of the Borg.

Isw1961 :
Peace is our nature, hence we do not want to disturb the peace of the organisation, hence we stick to the org--supporting all its goods, and ignoring all its evils.

Oh really?

"The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing..'

Ephesians 4:25 Therefore, having put away falsehood, let each one of you speak the truth with his neighbour, for we are members one of another.

Ezekiel 3:18 When I say to a wicked person, 'You will surely die,' and you do not warn them or speak out to dissuade them from their evil ways in order to save their life, that wicked person will die for their sin, and I will hold you accountable for their blood.

It seems Isw1961 has miraculously exempt himself from the above quotes using his advanced Ninja training..

There is also a rather massive assumption being slipped through here... Isw1981 is operating on the assumption and premise that the JW cult is actually God's true and chosen organisation and that it's simply lost it's way and become corrupted somehow and this newer purer more enlightened and specially blessed 'anointed class Mark 5' guided by the smug and newly branded truer than true spirit of righteous rebellion' is what will save the day.

Some here it seems have even latched on to this hope Lsw1961 is promoting and are choosing to either be seduced.. or deciding to ignore the fact the the Org NEVER was, never has been and never will be chosen by God for anything. Since it's initiation it has been nothing more then a man made cult.

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Silent And Sweet Rebellion Going On Within JW Organization!

by lsw1961 in

after 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.

but some left the organization.

however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..

GodZoo

Here we go again. Preaching masquerading as debate..

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JWs have more good points than bad

by lsw1961 in

1) many who were on the destructive path have been transformed by their teachings (this includes me who was once vicious, and presumptuous and atheistic).

2) equal monthly pay to all members of the bethel community regardless of whether they are bc members or sweepers.

this is something that still remains as an unattainable dream for the world.

GodZoo

“paedophilia issue” is the reflection of countries in which JWs are found (if the pan is not baked properly, it will break down under fire—if individuals have not understood the WT teaching or Bible teaching on paedophilia, they will crash under pressure),

What utter bullshit.. of the 1,700 cases reported in Australia by the Royal Commission and throughout the world many were committed by long serving elders and ministerial servants and many committed the heinous acts against their own children despite a full understanding of so called Wash towel teachings..

Perhaps if it were your child who was abused you might feel differently.

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JWs have more good points than bad

by lsw1961 in

1) many who were on the destructive path have been transformed by their teachings (this includes me who was once vicious, and presumptuous and atheistic).

2) equal monthly pay to all members of the bethel community regardless of whether they are bc members or sweepers.

this is something that still remains as an unattainable dream for the world.

GodZoo

The more detached you are, the better your vision will be! Try this, and you will be amazed at the results.

This person has plainly become detached from all sense. I'm surprised so many are falling for it and feeding him/her/it.

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Golden Age Quotes--You have to see it to believe it.

by blondie in

jw
friends

question: will husband and wife live together after the resurrection is completed, if both are in harmony with god?.

answer: the scriptures do not reveal what the relationship of men and women will be after the resurrection is completed.

the most that we know is that there will be no children born during the last 100 years of the millennium (isa.

GodZoo

Is the light any brighter on this one.

Yup! Plenty...

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JWs have more good points than bad

by lsw1961 in

1) many who were on the destructive path have been transformed by their teachings (this includes me who was once vicious, and presumptuous and atheistic).

2) equal monthly pay to all members of the bethel community regardless of whether they are bc members or sweepers.

this is something that still remains as an unattainable dream for the world.

GodZoo

Isw1961:

There are certain things I do not agree with, but I still accept them (though I do not approve them). I wait on Jehovah. When you are with a group, you have to accept certain things which you do not approve just you do with your life-partner.

Like causing thousands of unnecessary deaths due to their screwed up ever changing blood issue?

Like wasting millions of potentially productive lives dues to their stupid and ignorant views on education?

Like 130 years of totally false and insane prophetic garbage and lies?

Like breaking up and destroying who knows how many families with their cold and unloving disfellowshipping policy?

Like concealing from the authorities thousands and thousands of horrific cases of child sexual abuse within their ranks over decades?

Are you mental?

Trying to compare any of this to being with a life partner who's views you 'do not approve of' is beyond insane.

Claiming to wait on God has not synonymous with being involved with and asserting ridiculous loyalty to an entirely corrupt man made self-titled organisation that cannot possibly have anything to do with what Jesus apparently believed and taught.

Get help.

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JWs have more good points than bad

by lsw1961 in

1) many who were on the destructive path have been transformed by their teachings (this includes me who was once vicious, and presumptuous and atheistic).

2) equal monthly pay to all members of the bethel community regardless of whether they are bc members or sweepers.

this is something that still remains as an unattainable dream for the world.

GodZoo

1) Many who were on the destructive path have been transformed by their teachings (this includes me who was once vicious, and presumptuous and atheistic)

Nothing special there.. any cult can achieve similar.

Jail does the same thing for many..

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JWs have more good points than bad

by lsw1961 in

1) many who were on the destructive path have been transformed by their teachings (this includes me who was once vicious, and presumptuous and atheistic).

2) equal monthly pay to all members of the bethel community regardless of whether they are bc members or sweepers.

this is something that still remains as an unattainable dream for the world.

GodZoo

JWs have more good points than bad..

Hmm nice try but..

1 Corinthians 5:6:

'Your boasting is not good. Don't you know that a little yeast leavens the whole batch of dough?'

Their own Bible condemns them and the OP's statement.