TheMark
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I don't want the Watchtower's version of paradise.
by StarTrekAngel ini am writing this in the hopes that it may help someone in a debate.
i personally have not had a chance to discuss it with anyone but that is true for most other topics.
i think is a good one to analyze.
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TheMark
In the pictures above, aren't they supposed to be all the same age? Why the children? Isn't everyone in paradise a perfect adult? Especially after a million years. -
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Today's WT glancing at the opposite sex is flirting and therefore immortality
by purrpurr inin today's wt study it makes the point that just glancing at the opposite sex is flirting and can lead to sex!.
so are jw's now to wear blinkers?.
also jw's are told to go and confess to the elders if they have any immoral thoughts?!!.
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TheMark
at 55, browsing is all I have left....screw them -
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GEOFFREY JACKSON TO APPEAR BEFORE ROYAL COMMISSION ON FRIDAY 14TH August!!!
by defender of truth inthe royal commissions public hearing into the jehovahs witnesses will recommence in sydney on friday 14 august 2015 at 11:00am.. it is anticipated that the hearing will hear from one witness, mr geoffrey jackson, a member of the governing body of jehovahs witnesses.. .
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www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/media-centre/media-releases/2015-08/public-hearing-into-the-jehovah%e2%80%99s-witnesses-to-rec.
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TheMark
yes I have a problem trusting people especially suits. No I'm not mentally in or ill...lol. I reside in America yes but consider myself citizen of the earth rather than a particular country. I'm atheist, non-patriotic and believe in equality.
I didn't mean to derail the thread, I just made a prediction that's all. I don't feel the need to apologize.
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GEOFFREY JACKSON TO APPEAR BEFORE ROYAL COMMISSION ON FRIDAY 14TH August!!!
by defender of truth inthe royal commissions public hearing into the jehovahs witnesses will recommence in sydney on friday 14 august 2015 at 11:00am.. it is anticipated that the hearing will hear from one witness, mr geoffrey jackson, a member of the governing body of jehovahs witnesses.. .
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www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/media-centre/media-releases/2015-08/public-hearing-into-the-jehovah%e2%80%99s-witnesses-to-rec.
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TheMark
If Jackson is treated differently by Stewart then I'll know something went down behind closed doors. And if that happens I equate that to bribes (dishonesty). Bribes might have been a strong word to use.
Don't get me wrong, I'm hoping this guy is grilled, forced to squirm in his seat but I don't think it's going to happen. I think the commission will go easy on him to save face, Jackson's especially.
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GEOFFREY JACKSON TO APPEAR BEFORE ROYAL COMMISSION ON FRIDAY 14TH August!!!
by defender of truth inthe royal commissions public hearing into the jehovahs witnesses will recommence in sydney on friday 14 august 2015 at 11:00am.. it is anticipated that the hearing will hear from one witness, mr geoffrey jackson, a member of the governing body of jehovahs witnesses.. .
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www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/media-centre/media-releases/2015-08/public-hearing-into-the-jehovah%e2%80%99s-witnesses-to-rec.
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TheMark
I apologize for being so pessimistic about this but that's just who I am. I really wish this guy was asked the tough questions and required to answer them but I doubt this will happen. I'll be back Friday to apologize if I was wrong. -
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GEOFFREY JACKSON TO APPEAR BEFORE ROYAL COMMISSION ON FRIDAY 14TH August!!!
by defender of truth inthe royal commissions public hearing into the jehovahs witnesses will recommence in sydney on friday 14 august 2015 at 11:00am.. it is anticipated that the hearing will hear from one witness, mr geoffrey jackson, a member of the governing body of jehovahs witnesses.. .
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www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/media-centre/media-releases/2015-08/public-hearing-into-the-jehovah%e2%80%99s-witnesses-to-rec.
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TheMark
This is my prediction. It will be totally scripted. No tough questions with vague answers. The WT will come out smelling like roses as the prosecution accepts the bribes. And you will all exclaim WTF happened here. Yep, corruption and conspiracies exist. -
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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.
by The Rebel inso i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
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TheMark
DJS: "Those who promulgate lies and deception are dangerous"
DJS: "I developed and taught an Intelligence Analysis course at one of the local colleges a few years ago - the course was put together with the assistance of the US Military Academy (West Point) Lt. Colonel who taught the same course there"
Talk about being blind to its own surroundings..lol. Like I said, it happens.
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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.
by The Rebel inso i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
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TheMark
I once firmly believed and strongly argued that the bible was factual, scientifically and historically. I believed a conspiracy theory. When people would call me crazy for believing it, I'd turn around and call them crazies for not believing the truth. So it can happen.
As far as the moon landings goes, well I was glued to the television set 24/7 at the time. Kinda hard for me to wrap my brain around the fact that maybe they didn't happen. I did look at what the theorists consider evidence that the landings didn't happen and was not convinced.
Did the US send spacecrafts to the moon? I'm pretty sure they did.
Were they manned missions? Maybe.
Did they land on the moon? Maybe.
Two arguments in this thread were brought up to prove that the moon landings could not have been faked.
1.-The Russians did not deny them.
2.-Too many people had to be involved and secrecy was impossible.
NASA could have faked the manned part of the mission. In other words, send a spacecraft to orbit the moon a few times and come back. It would be difficult for Russia to really know if these were manned or not, especially once in the vicinity of the moon. So Russia knows that a spacecraft was sent to the moon but wouldn't be in a position to disprove if there was actually someone there or if they had landed.
From that point, setting up a studio to fake the moon landings wouldn't be difficult and wouldn't require that many people. Simulators could have been used to even fool some NASA employees.
And since the big brains over at NASA recorded over the original footing there's no way of knowing. That part sounds a little suspicious to me. They recorded over the most important achievement in human history? Maybe they did this because with today's technology it could be easily proven that they were made in a studio setting. Now that raises my conspiracy flags.
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Question for those still attending...is anyone talking?
by ToesUp inwe haven't been to a meeting or jw event in several years.
we have been following the rc closely.
it is fascinating!
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TheMark
I had a conversation with an active witness in western Canada. Had no knowledge of it. Had no knowledge of other cases as well. This person was somewhat surprised and shaken by the information and couldn't believe these cases were purposely hidden by the org. and elders. -
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Australia Evidence List is public and contains Elders Book
by Skidmarks inthere is so much information on the website of the hearing.
you can find the full transcripts of each day there as pdf.. but also the evidence list is very interresting.
it contains many confidential letters from congregations but also from the hq to branch offices.. the full list can be seen here: http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/exhibits/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
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TheMark
I've always loved this site for stuff like this. Thanks everyone. This is going to hurt. I wonder how they'll explain that to the flock.