Posts by GrreatTeacher

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this scared the heck out of me

by Curious Kitten in

has anyone ever read this book ???

jehovah is mentioned at the very bottom supposedly he is a reptilian god (demon) that resides on jupiter ?

wth.

GrreatTeacher

Hi, Curious Kitten. I remember you!

Now, what have you got up to? Reading a book like this.

I think it's safe to say that this book is silly nonsense. Jehovah is the made up name of the Old Testament God. When I say made up, I mean that they knew the Jewish consonants, but made up the vowel sounds.

Make sure you do some reality testing when reading. Is it likely that all of these people through the centuries have been in on a giant conspiracy? Wouldn't someone have talked in the last couple thousand years?

Thanks for stopping back in, Curious Kitten. I'm glad you're continuing to read, research and learn!

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JW's mentioned on Radio4 as being resistant to reporting child abuse.

by floriferous in

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b055dttx.

the government has announced plans to make it a legal obligation for social workers, teachers and councillors to report child abuse.

the churches' child protection advisory service has called for the proposed law to apply to churches.

GrreatTeacher

A quote from the sermon "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God:"

"The God that holds you over the pit of hell, much as one holds a spider, or some loathsome insect over the fire, abhors you and is dreadfully provoked..."

and

"...he will crush you under his feet without mercy; he'll crush out your blood, and make it fly, and it shall be sprinkled on his garments, so as to stain his raiment. He will not only hate you, but he will have you in the utmost contempt; no place shall be thought fit for you, but under his feet, to be trodden down as the mire of the streets."

- Jonathan Edwards, 1703

England wouldn't have these crazies. The Netherlands wouldn't have them, either. So, America got stuck with them.

Creepily, this sounds much like Christian Fundamentalist rhetoric of today.

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JW's mentioned on Radio4 as being resistant to reporting child abuse.

by floriferous in

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b055dttx.

the government has announced plans to make it a legal obligation for social workers, teachers and councillors to report child abuse.

the churches' child protection advisory service has called for the proposed law to apply to churches.

GrreatTeacher

The Pilgrims were Puritans who were dumb enough to sail on the Mayflower and land in Massachusetts right before winter.

They were separatists who had previously left England for The Netherlands. Not finding the paradise they wanted there, they decided to retain their English identity by sailing to North America to create New England.

Cue witch trials and banishment for those who weren't strict enough. Anne Hutchinson was a mouthy woman who dared to speak and teach in church and got banished to Rhode Island. All the bad kids got sent there. Sunday sermons featured family favorites like "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God." ( God thinks you are disgusting and you will burn in hell forever for it. )

No, there was no freedom of religion. You either towed the line or you were banished, pretty much to the wilderness. It was those banishees who were interested in the separation of church and state. The church was the state in Puritan New England.

Ugly people, those Puritan Pilgrims.

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Epic Discussion ( Confrontation ) with JW Cart People about WT Child Abuse

by flipper in

so i had about had enough of reading jw's excuses online about wt child abuse and the candace conti nightline abc video about her case.

this is a really deep burning topic to me as i'm sure it is to many of you.

so today the gloves came off.

GrreatTeacher

Maybe Sister Talkative will do some research on the internet tonight.

Well, maybe after Brother Vitriolic has gone to sleep...

Good job, Flipper! High five! (or high fin...it's so weird that you speak English so well, what with being a dolphin and all.)

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Looking for examples of Witnesses physically harmed during field service

by Indian Larry in

i am looking for any examples, preferably with independent news sources of any witnesses that have ever been:.

mugged.

raped.

GrreatTeacher

I used to work out in field service as a child with an elder who used to dismiss Beware of the Dog signs as inconsequential.

A snarling dog was ignored with the saying, "That dog wouldn't bite a beefsteak!"

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"Why I don't like people coming to my door, selling religion"

by Captain Schmideo2 in

jw
friends

this is from a blog, "news from me" that i read fairly regularly.

mark evanier is, among other things, a comic book writer (co-writer for "groo-the wanderer), a television writer, a great raconteur, and was a close person friend of jack kirby, one of the world's greatest comic book artists.he got an email from a jw trying to explain why they come to his door.evanier's answer is well thought out, and should explain to even the densest j-dub why people really don't like being bothered.

maybe his correspondent will take it to heart, but probably not.

GrreatTeacher

I like when he says that when you are selling something as important as salvation and you sell it on the same model as door-to-door aluminum siding, you cheapen your message.

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jw.org cart days numbered?

by jookbeard in

reading a report of an elder in a friends cong has been hiding and spying on the pioneers who seem to have a practise of dumping the cart and finding a local coffee shop, i've noticed that they do this in my local high street as well but this week they seemed to be all huddled around the cart, they've clearly been warned, a vast percentage of the time i see they seem to be more interested in fiddling with their mobile phones and gossiping, is just seems these carts are a means for the pioneers to turn in "easy time" i wonder what sort of figures show how much literature is being taken by the public?

i bet its very minimal.

naturally the gb would say they are a phenomenal success , we clearly know they are not.

GrreatTeacher

Yes, now there's really no reason the elderly and infirm can't pioneer.

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Standardized or United in Love ?

by TheFadingAlbatros in

one of the main trigger points who brought me to decide to officially separate myself from the jw org.by very recenly sending my letter of dissociation was reached when i became fully aware that the jw.org is standardizing their flock with their repeated manipulations and new lights instead of uniting them with love.

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and once fully standardized according to the jw.org standards it is very difficult for a jw to have normal and human contact with "worldly" not standardized people.. thanks for reading and take care..

GrreatTeacher

rmt1, interesting visual. I can see the bell curve in my mind. Acceptable Witnesses are within 2 standard deviations of the mean. Outliers are axed.

Fading albatross describes a situation in which a single data point becomes self-aware, of not only his position in the normal distribution, but also the entire distribution and the fate of the outliers.

Those hugging the mean are the most indoctrinated and very easy to manipulate. These data points are not very self-aware. The farther you move away from the mean, the less indoctrinated and the more danger the Society sees. Those in the 3rd standard deviation tend to talk. That is a danger sign to the Society. Once you are an outlier, you are a problem. Cue the witch hunts and the loyalty question.

The true sheep cluster together on the mean. As sheep do.

Anyhow, fun idea, rmt1!

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Asshole Atheism – Not for me, now or ever.

by donny in

to start off with let me clarify that by asshole atheism i am not referring to strong atheism or any other type of upfront atheism.

what i am referring to is the belligerent, hateful atheism that smacks of trolls and other types who want to derail conversation or comments at any cost..

i enjoy hearing comments from both sides of the subjects of theism, nationalism or politics, especially from those who have intense opinions.

GrreatTeacher

Got it...now.

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Asshole Atheism – Not for me, now or ever.

by donny in

to start off with let me clarify that by asshole atheism i am not referring to strong atheism or any other type of upfront atheism.

what i am referring to is the belligerent, hateful atheism that smacks of trolls and other types who want to derail conversation or comments at any cost..

i enjoy hearing comments from both sides of the subjects of theism, nationalism or politics, especially from those who have intense opinions.

GrreatTeacher

could have cried?