i'm wondering if the borg actually studied mind control and coercion tactics deliberately or wether they just evolved over time through trial and error.
from reading steve hassans books, studying hypnosis and methods psychopaths use it all seems very complex.
like it would never occur to me to do a, b and c in the right order at the right time in order to get control of someone or control their lives.. for example, repetition of words (the word "loyalty" was a big one in the last convention), using loaded language, encouraging people not to trust their own thoughts, restricting their information, demonising those who leave etc.
Well, Charlie Russell was a salesman first. He owned very successful clothing stores. Then, a religious publishing house.
I think the trick was getting his salesforce to not realize that they were actually salesmen. That's the beginning of doublethink and manipulation, IMHO.
i will start this o.p by a review of the mental conditioni i find many former or current witnesses at when they join the board :-.
1. broken relationships.. 2. lonliness/ depression.
3. guilt / shame .
The Rebel, your thoughtful post speaks to the value of being a good listener.
Your thoughts, feelings and personal experiences are a great way to start sharing and healing.
Contentious debates are another thing entirely, and those who listen carefully and extensively before weighing in are going to get the best reception and will be able to help move the debate forward.
It's not like chess; thinking several moves ahead prevents you from listening and responding to the actual thoughts behind the comments. This can only happen when you slow down, listen closely, and truly understand the other person's point.
Which is exactly why drinking and posting is a recipe for disaster. Drinking loosens inhibitions. And, it takes effort to inhibit an impulsive, emotional response.
Methinks you are a wise man. :)
my mother's parents, my grandparents were not jw.
my jw mother had medical power of attorney and her husband (never jw) was secondary on that.
when grandma needed blood, mom let her husband sign off.
When my parents were in a severe car accident last year, one of the most hurtful things was that the children could not make decisions for their parents.
I would sign that thing in a minute and then make my own decision if it were ever necessary.
after a very quiet couple of hours detecting this afternoon i was chuffed to find this silver coin.. it is a groat of edward iii of england.
for a long time the only coin available was the silver penny.
if you wanted to spend half a penny or a quarter you literally cut it up.
That is so cool. Thanks for sharing that.
There's no way anything that old could be found in the US.
I get excited if I find a wheat penny from the early 20th century!
so i was talking with my daughter the other day and she tells me that she doesn't want me to push my beliefs on her.i am agnostic.
which isn't a belief.
it's a lack of belief.
Steve2 hit the nail on the head. It's the teenager's developmental task to separate from the parents. She's right on track.
All she is telling you is, I need to figure this out on my own."
Don't consider what she says she believes to be her Final Answer. She will likely change her mind several times again.
She absorbs enough of your opinions anyhow, without you having to say a thing. Yes, kids are that good. They pick up waaay more than parents give them credit for.
When my son was about 13 he announced one day out of the blue that he had decided to be an atheist.
"Oh, yeah?" I asked.
"Yeah, Grandmom's a little weird sometimes," he said, speaking of my JW mother.
And that was it.
so, the jehovah`s witnesses sold a kingdom hall that used to be a little too big and started to build a new one a few streets away: .
http://www.lavantposte.ca/actualites/societe/2016/7/22/l-edifice-des-temoins-de-jehovah-prend-forme.html.
what i find absolutely ridiculous is that they could have taken the profit of the sale of the first hall to have a contractor build the second.
Commercial buildings have flat rooves above the Mason-Dixon line. However, the construction is the much more expensive commercial type.
I imagine it is ever more expensive the greater the snow load.
external photos have previously been posted here.
4442 j m turk road, flowery branch ga 30542. from the gainesville times:.
jehovah's witnesses open new kingdom hall in flowery branch.
Did anyone else catch his brag about non-wood construction being faster because you don't have to drive nails into planks, but yet it said it took eight months to construct at the beginning of the article?
update on mouthy (grace gough)this is graces granddaughter.
i wanted to send an update that today my beautiful grandmother passed away - surrounded by friends and family.
- may 22 1927 - sept 2nd 2016. mouthys_granddaughter.
I knew she hadn't been well for awhile. I am glad we actually know what happened. It was nice of her granddaughter to update us.
Rest in peace, Grace. You were a firecracker.
gorby has had a personal paradigm shift lately.. from one point to an other i "feel" and "think" different about the jw subject.. - no more interest in doctrine.
- no more interest in things that happen 100 years ago into an religion.. - no more taking statements too serious.
it doesn't matter me at all what a generation doctrine change is all about, it doesn't matter me at all that brother elder said "blablabla boe!".
Yes, millie! Like, "The Truth." Could anything be more arrogant?
Or how about, "getting your time in?"
Or how about, "I believe," when they really mean, "what the Watchtower says."
You can really just dismiss everything easily at that point.
60th anniversary – i was baptized 9-1-56 .
my parents weren’t witnesses at the time, but my witness uncle studied with my brother and i. i think the only reason my parents let him was because my brother was having mental issues and were hoping it would help him.
my father surprised me a few years later, started studying and was baptized in 1961, later appointed an elder.
Hi, Bonnie! I just want to say that I enjoyed your post.
So much dedication and no appreciation from the Society for all your years of hard work. You are only as good as your last hour reported.
You are to be commended for taking care of your elderly parents. Alzheimers is a cruel disease, both for the patient and the caregivers.
I wish you a happy retirement and many more years with your loving family.
