Posts by GrreatTeacher

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A major misadventure!

by Bungi Bill in

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hi, everyone.. i haven't posted here much in quite a while, but having just been laid low by injury, i'll likely be a frequent visitor for some time to come!.

two weeks ago, i was involved in a workplace accident that left me with my lower l.h.

leg fractured in three places (the tibia and fibular both broken clean through, plus another crack in the "neck" of the fibular for good measure!

GrreatTeacher

Sorry to hear that. My husband had a workplace injury that ended up with metal rods holding together three vertebrae in his lower back.

Yep, longtime ouchies. We had to take him off of the pain meds because when TV and social media got boring, there was always something so very necessary to order off of Amazon. I came home from work every other day tripping over those damn Amazon boxes with stuff in them that we did not need, and that he often forgot about all together. He got dialed down to ibuprofen real quick.

Fortunately the rods were titanium so he can get an MRI without getting sucked to the machine, and he doesn't have to get naked at airport security.

I just hope that your workplace is fulfilling their responsibilities for your workplace accident. My husband's is, often kicking and screaming, but everything gets approved after two or three calls to the lawyers, who then call the workplace and tell them that, yes, they legally have to cover this...even for things like medication that he's been on for years.

Anywho, not wishing you any of those problems. I hope you enjoy your downtime and look forward to hearing more from you on the forum.

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ARC - Case Study 54 - All Exhibits have been released

by jwleaks in

all exhibits for case study 54, jehovah's witnesses and watchtower, have been released by the arc.. http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/exhibits/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.

exhibit list.

joint statement of o'brien and spinks.

GrreatTeacher

I've made it clear to my teenager that sexting is a crime and they could be charged with child pornography.

Because it is, and they could.

And, as a teacher, if I knew about it, I would have to report them.

The law is the law.

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My older brother has stopped his bible study

by pale.emperor in

good news people.

my older brother has abruptly stopped his bible study with the witnesses.

he was part-time shunning me during his study and his behavior was beginning to change into cult mode but he was thankfully woken up.

GrreatTeacher

Such great news. You've got a thinker!

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What food are you grateful for?

by punkofnice in

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i'll start: stilton cheese.. (it was a toss up between that and sweet pickled beetroot).. thank you folks..

GrreatTeacher

A bushel of steamed blue crabs, steamed in beer until they turn red and seasoned with Old Bay seasoning. Then dump out on a table covered in newspaper and crack the exoskeleton with wooden mallets to get to the meat inside. Ignore the dead eyes "looking" at you.

It's a slow process, so drink more beer. After a couple of hours when you're still hungry, start in on the hot buttered corn on the cob.

You could starve to death cracking crabs. It's about the social event.

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The Evolution of Morality - Jonathan Haidt

by cofty in

the question of how humans came to have a moral sense is one of the more interesting challenges offered by believers against unguided evolution.

even informed christians who accept the reality of evolution feel a need to add an additional step where god imbued man with a conscience.. non-supernatural explanations of the origin of morality usually focus on simple examples of reciprocal altruism and the ability to empathise with fellow creatures.

secular moral systems most often rest on the single foundation of the effects actions have on the well-being of conscious creatures.

GrreatTeacher

Thanks, Cofty, go get some sleep! Time changes this weekend, we lose an hour's sleep. Don't know about the UK, though.

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The Evolution of Morality - Jonathan Haidt

by cofty in

the question of how humans came to have a moral sense is one of the more interesting challenges offered by believers against unguided evolution.

even informed christians who accept the reality of evolution feel a need to add an additional step where god imbued man with a conscience.. non-supernatural explanations of the origin of morality usually focus on simple examples of reciprocal altruism and the ability to empathise with fellow creatures.

secular moral systems most often rest on the single foundation of the effects actions have on the well-being of conscious creatures.

GrreatTeacher

Wow. The flag thing after 9/11.

My instinct was to fly a pure white flag of peace. I wonder what that says about me.

I didn't, though, even though I probably could have. Now, you put the wrong bumper sticker on your car and you get fired, or a tow-truck driver refuses to tow you.

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The Evolution of Morality - Jonathan Haidt

by cofty in

the question of how humans came to have a moral sense is one of the more interesting challenges offered by believers against unguided evolution.

even informed christians who accept the reality of evolution feel a need to add an additional step where god imbued man with a conscience.. non-supernatural explanations of the origin of morality usually focus on simple examples of reciprocal altruism and the ability to empathise with fellow creatures.

secular moral systems most often rest on the single foundation of the effects actions have on the well-being of conscious creatures.

GrreatTeacher

Digesting. Thanks.

Liberals tend to view Tradition as dictatorial and oppressive and resistant to new knowledge, including new scientific knowledge that could improve lives. It's that that we are struggling against. Tradition=Oppression to many liberals.

That's why, I believe, that arguments complaining about the unconsitutionality of something (eg 2nd amendment gun rights) fall on deaf liberal ears. The Constitution should not be an ossified document. It's a living document that is subject to judicial interpretation, the thinking goes.

So very, very interesting!

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The Evolution of Morality - Jonathan Haidt

by cofty in

the question of how humans came to have a moral sense is one of the more interesting challenges offered by believers against unguided evolution.

even informed christians who accept the reality of evolution feel a need to add an additional step where god imbued man with a conscience.. non-supernatural explanations of the origin of morality usually focus on simple examples of reciprocal altruism and the ability to empathise with fellow creatures.

secular moral systems most often rest on the single foundation of the effects actions have on the well-being of conscious creatures.

GrreatTeacher

Wow. Just wow. The downvote on a post in which I am legitimately trying to find an answer to the problematic political climate in the US through scientific research is very disturbing.

I hope it's not a knee-jerk reaction on the part of a member of the political right, but it seems suspiciously so, and only serves to reinforce my confusion about /disdain for conservatives.

If just trying to understand is problematic for those on the right, I hold very little hope out for finding common ground. :(

Sorry, Cofty, for the derail. I love this kind of science. I'm teaching elementary parts of this subject to my 3rd graders right now. I will order Haidt's book.

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The Evolution of Morality - Jonathan Haidt

by cofty in

the question of how humans came to have a moral sense is one of the more interesting challenges offered by believers against unguided evolution.

even informed christians who accept the reality of evolution feel a need to add an additional step where god imbued man with a conscience.. non-supernatural explanations of the origin of morality usually focus on simple examples of reciprocal altruism and the ability to empathise with fellow creatures.

secular moral systems most often rest on the single foundation of the effects actions have on the well-being of conscious creatures.

GrreatTeacher

Cofty- "experiments suggest that those on the right are far better at accurately understanding the perspective of those on the left than vice-versa."

Links?

I find this subject exceedingly interesting. Having a scientific explanation in terms of adaptive responses to selective pressures in the arena of morality might be a big help in understanding the political stand-off that the US faces right now.

I find US politics very distressing. The last 10 years has been absolutely ugly, it's only escalated, and there seems to be no resolution in sight.

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The Evolution of Morality - Jonathan Haidt

by cofty in

the question of how humans came to have a moral sense is one of the more interesting challenges offered by believers against unguided evolution.

even informed christians who accept the reality of evolution feel a need to add an additional step where god imbued man with a conscience.. non-supernatural explanations of the origin of morality usually focus on simple examples of reciprocal altruism and the ability to empathise with fellow creatures.

secular moral systems most often rest on the single foundation of the effects actions have on the well-being of conscious creatures.

GrreatTeacher

Hmm. Interesting. I find the right confusing on the two moral intuitions involving hierarchy: 4)Authority/Subversion and 6)Liberty/Oppression.

In the case of the first, they seem to find Authority an important value, which seems pro-hierarchy to me.

In the case of the latter, they seem to find Liberty an important value, which seems anti-hierarchy to me.

This seems very confusing and hypocritical to me, a liberal, who thinks that the problem is hierarchy itself, and who values a more level, equal/democratic way or organizing society.

So, yeah, Haidt sounds very prescient and might deserve an order on Amazon from me.