Posts by GrreatTeacher

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Article: Face of Co Kerry woman jailed for grooming and having sex with teenage boy

by Tahoe in

this is the first image of the convicted child groomer who confessed to her jehovah’s witness congregation that she groomed a boy from the age of 14 before having sex with him two years later.. .

perverted pamela lonergan, who went on to work in childcare settings and as a carer in the community, admitted four counts of defilement of a child under the age of 17.. the offences occurred at locations in kerry and cork in 2008 and 2009.. appearing before cork circuit court earlier this month, lonergan of treanmanagh, glenbeigh, co kerry, received a one year jail sentence for the offences.. speaking afterwards, one local said the community had been stunned to learn of lonergan’s abuse.. he said another neighbour had met lonergan on the road the week before the trial and she had told him she was moving up to cork for a while.. “ obviously she thought her name wasn’t going to be disclosed in the media,” he said.. “if the victim hadn’t waived his anonymity to allow this happen, she’ have come back here when she got out and we’d have been none the wiser.”.

cork circuit criminal court heard lonergan was 26 when she first started initiating contact with the minor, having met him in a social setting.

GrreatTeacher

The problem is that an adult found a 14 year old sexually appealing enough to begin grooming him. Well adjusted adults don't have those attractions.

This doesn't even allow for the Romeo and Juliet exclusions which are usually no more than 2 or 3 years difference in ages.

This fits the profile of women pedophiles who are attracted to minors. They tend to view it as a romance and feel justified in their behavior, not viewing it as being an Offender at all. Internet rabbit hole: Mary Kay Letournou was a teacher who began grooming her student and ended up marrying him. She was jailed but doesn't seem remorseful. He eventually divorced her realizing that hs had been groomed and abused.

And of course, a JW anecdote: an underage marriage, a very young pregnancy, and an affair between the 14 year old JW babysitter and the young mom. Disfellowshipping, divorce, and moving far away for all involved.

Best life ever!

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What do you think?

by Tahoe in

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GrreatTeacher

If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say no, it's not coming from above as any kind of policy, official or unofficial. In my estimation, policies from above don't liberalize anything. Look at the behavior of tantrumming CO's. They want more, more, more.

I think this might be a phenomenon that's actually rising from the bottom up. People have had a break in their indoctrination via Covid. No door to door and no physical meetings. Remember that successful indoctrination needs to keep you too busy to really think deeply about it.

There's also an element of the person putting much physical effort into it that creates a kind of self indoctrination by means of the Sunk Cost fallacy: "I've put too much of my life into this to give up now. I've given my best years of blood, sweat and tears. I need to stick around for the payoff."

But during the Covid closures, even the most faithful were not going door to door. They were not giving up hours to drive to the hall and back to attend meetings. Some were not getting dressed up in meeting clothes, especially after they just Zoomed in with cameras off. There was finally enough time away to think a little, and maybe more importantly to get accustomed to and enjoy a much freer life.

So, in my opinion, Covid broke the Cult. From the bottom up. No wonder the Org is angry and desperate. They're used to having control from the top down. But, the cat has been let out of the bag and the old pussycat ain't going back in anytime soon.

That's why one "brother" spoke to ThomasMore and that's why I predict more to follow. The brothers have simply finally heard the sound of their consciences and are listening to them.

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What do you think?

by Tahoe in

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GrreatTeacher

ThomasMore,

That "unshunning" is virtually unheard of.

In my opinion it's an excellent sign that something is indeed unraveling in Watchtower Land.

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What do you think?

by Tahoe in

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GrreatTeacher

Covid removed a lot of people from the constant indoctrination.

Some put their cameras on and kept on participating.

Others kept cameras off and mentally checked out.

Then there were the ones who only checked in to the meeting and then did whatever else they wanted just in order to keep up appearances.

Rooting for people to just give up logging into Zoom meetings at all.

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What do you think?

by Tahoe in

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GrreatTeacher

Also, ineffective management. Yelling is a piss poor motivator.

It's not the local brothers who can stem the exodus. That's a problem for the organization. It's obviously systemic.

Surprised they haven't cut off Zoom for the meetings.

Although I'm skeptical it would do much. Many people have left for good and aren't coming back.

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What do you think?

by Tahoe in

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GrreatTeacher

"If you can't do the job, get out!"

I think I'd take him up on that offer.

Real quick.

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PIMI wife told to go against her husband and take the vaccines?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

if a pimi sister has been told by her unbelieving husband not to take these experimental vaccines then what is official jw policy in this situation?.

should she go against her husband and tell him i will do what the men at my church tell me?.

what on earth will the husband think then?

GrreatTeacher

Poor woman doesn't realize that nobody other than herself has the right to make medical decisions for her.

Not her husband, not her church.

Not that damned Hospital Liason Committee that descends upon hospitalized JWs like vultures.

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Jehovah's Witness Retirement Homes and Senior Care

by Tahoe in

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/jehovahs-witness-retirement-homes-and-senior-care/ar-aa1jrvoa.

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GrreatTeacher

I got the impression that they are Great Britain owned, but there is an American subsidiary.

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Jehovah's Witness Retirement Homes and Senior Care

by Tahoe in

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/jehovahs-witness-retirement-homes-and-senior-care/ar-aa1jrvoa.

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GrreatTeacher

Same company. Legacy Place Cottages is run as a 503c3 nonprofit owned by Jah-Jireh Homes of America Allentown, per their website. You can find it by clicking on the link in Tahoe's article.

There's a little blurb on their page praising Jah-Jireh homes in Great Britain.

This is in Pennsylvania which is the motherland of JWs. There are Witneses all over the state still. Grew up and still have family there.

In contrast, where I live now in Maryland the nearest hall is 25 miles away. In an area with high population density. There are just no JWs around here.

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JWLITE

by Teddnzo in

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even elders can be part of the new jw lite brigade these days.

they don’t need to go on door to door anymore and there is no requirement for anything really.. taking meeting parts is all dead easy you could turn up on the day with zero preparation because it’s all in the meeting workbook.. quarterly elders meetings are just old men having a good old natter just like old men do down the pub.. congregations could be likened to pubs or bars these days just without the drinks, those come at other times.. no need for territory maps, these almost went away with covid letter writing now they are extremely slow getting finished as those who still go door to door only do ten mins.. you could even voice your questions these days about things the gb say and then just say “we can’t be dogmatic we just don’t know”.

i predict they will say this about 1914 soon..

GrreatTeacher

I would never take Pascal's Wager.

There is no one I would enjoy spending forever with less than the hypocritical lot of JWs.

I didn't enjoy being around them back then and I certainly cannot imagine spending eternity with them.

What a miserable world the New World would be.