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  Elders hounding members to quit their jobs due to missing too many meetings

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  how many times did you see elders hounding congregation members to quit their jobs due to missing meetings?.

  my brother worked at a grocery store at 16 years old.

  he would miss tuesday's ministry school due to his work schedule.

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  GrreatTeacher

  Funny, my history professor in college had a simiar story.

  He had graduated from college with a degree in history and was having trouble finding a job.

  In the meantime, he was doing roadwork. Yes, nasty, stinky, full of tar roadwork.

  He heard of the job opening teaching history at the college I attended, called and got an interview for the same day.

  He left work and had no time to go home and clean up, so he showed up to his interview dirty. Obviously professional attire would have been expected.

  The interviewer was so surprised that he was asked about it and he told them that he was doing what he had to do to make a living while looking for the job he was qualified for.

  He got the job right then and there. They appreciated his work ethic. And, years later, when I was a student, he was still there.

  And I learned the hell out of world history. Geography included. I could at one time label the entire world map of every country, mountain range and river. One continent at a time, for sure, but I REALLY learned world history. Not multiple choice, but the student labels a blank map and answers essay questions from scratch.

  I know I really earned my "A" for that class!
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  Can you get disfellowship for kissing a person of the same sex?

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i found this on exjwreddit.

  a pimo elder is in the middle of an event where a former co allegedly kissed a brother from another hall.. the co denied it so the other elders are frustrated because they can't have a judicial meeting.

  if true, can he be disfellowshipped?

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  GrreatTeacher

  SaltaDoom, you don't really believe that crap you wrote, do you?

  Elders disfellowship "repentant" people all the time to make examples of them. Especially if others know about it. They are making a statement to others that this won't be allowed.

  And their "help" consists of the direction to pray more and go out in the ministry more.

  You might not know this though until it happens to you.

  Believe what they actually do, not what they say they do.

  Many here can testify to the above, including myself.
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  Elders hounding members to quit their jobs due to missing too many meetings

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how many times did you see elders hounding congregation members to quit their jobs due to missing meetings?.

  my brother worked at a grocery store at 16 years old.

  he would miss tuesday's ministry school due to his work schedule.

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  GrreatTeacher

  I remember some of this crap from back in the 80s.

  My father rarely had to work overtime, but there were occasions, such as a plant shutdown, when he absolutely had to work.

  If they're shutting down the entire place so some necessary work could be done, they wanted workers there 24/7 for that week or two because they weren't making money during the shutdown and wanted to get things back up and running again as soon as possible.

  Thankfully my dad was a team player and would help out when absolutely necessary.

  He did turn down some voluntary overtime though.

  That was when there were 2 midweek meetings. Now, when there is only one, it sounds really petty for the elders to have an issue with missing one hour (or however long the meeting is now) a week to keep decent employment.
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  More cracks in the dam - WTS pleading for elders "in their early 20s"

  by FFGhost in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have another post here about how the wts is reeling from covid, as reflected in their abysmally catastrophic service report:.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6315842470936576/annual-service-report-yet-another-analysis-big-trouble-wts.

  here's another rupture showing.. in the latest "announcements and reminders" to elders, there is a paragraph with these sentences:.

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  GrreatTeacher

  Remember when they used to denigrate the 18 year old Mormons when they came knocking for having the audacity to call themselves elders?

  I do. Now they're stealing a page from their playbook.

  I wonder if they also trade stock tips with each other.
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  Faith-Apostasy-Atheism

  by DoubtingThomas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been on m any different forums, and only carm is similar to this.. all the rest have rather hypocritical trust in god.. this and carm are for those who apostate to the wtbs and to god.. turned off by the gb, or hypocritical examples in the congregation, they drop worshiping god and their belief in the bible... for they know too much,.

  that's why scripture isn't discussed, and jws like me, are demonized.. i am cool with that!

  maybe some of you will come to their senses!.

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  GrreatTeacher

  No, Punky, unicorns are real. Just ask my niece!
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  Should young children peddle Watchtower Society literature?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one thing i always disliked about the watchtower society is how they use young children tp peddle their literature.

  my mom insisted that my brother (12 years old) and i (9 years old) go out in field service every saturday morning.

  didn't matter if it was 90 degrees or 20 degrees, we were out peddling watchtower magazines.

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  I was very young, maybe 7.

  My evil trick to lighten up the boredom was to allow my mother to give her presentation, then plaintively look the householder in the eye and say, "I've gotta go to the bathroom!"

  It was amazing the number of times that it worked and I was able to spend some quality time snooping in some stranger's bathroom.

  When there was silence and it looked doubtful, I would seamlessly turn to my mother and continue, "so we've got to go now. Maybe I could use the bathroom at McDonald's."

  Mom figured the game out after a few months, but it was very entertaining while it worked.
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  Can Jehovah's Witnesses explain the overlapping generation?

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i found this interesting topic on the current views among jws regarding the overlapping generation.. the posts are hilarious.

  how do most jehovah's witnesses explain the overlapping generation?.

  i've asked a couple of jws to explain the overlapping generation and they directed me to the website jw------org.. either they don't know, or they do know but don't want to discuss it because they know it's bogus and embarrassing.. either way, surely they must know that this just extended the last days another 80 years from the time fred franz died.

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  GrreatTeacher

  One of their big problems is confusing the word generation with lifespan.

  1914 to 1994 would be an 80 year lifespan. People started to get antsy.

  But the word generation was always used to describe a group of contemporaries in modern parlance. Hence: the Greatest Generation, the Baby Boom Generation, Generation X, etc.

  Suddenly, WT decided to use that, in a sense, updated, definition of the word. A group of contemporaries overlapping in age. Yes, you could be born anytime between 1946 and 1964 and still be part of the Baby Boom Generation, even though individuals could have as much as 18 years in age between them.

  But, they bastardized this to mean some gobbledygook wherein a grandfather is an overlapping generation with a grandson and the lengths of their separate lifespans added up to something they called an "overlapping generation." This is a completely made up idea. It's a made up word with a made up usage. Of course it's incomprehensible: it's an idea that doesn't actually exist in reality.

  Demerits for misuse of the English language.

  I award no points and may God have mercy on your soul.
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  A little something you have not yet heard.

  by lastmanstanding in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i hope to make a very interesting post here, and informative.

  i’m quite sure no one here has heard this content.

  i would like to finally make known some heretofore undisclosed details concerning something that has affected probably everyone on this board to some degree.

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  GrreatTeacher

  I'm willing to bet on the latter.

  The lawyers seem to be running the show and have likely told them to knock the badmouthing off.

  Then, you tweak the wording slightly and you never hear about the United Nations again.

  New light then morphs to, "We never taught that."

  Cults 101
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  No rational reasoning with cult elders

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://youtu.be/elm5y8t3pjs.

  this is why i can't in good conscience go back to the organisation.

  you are pressured to bring others into the cult and then for them to wake up and find they are caught in a web of rules and policies such as shunning.

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  GrreatTeacher

  Weasel words.

  Lawyer was great in calling out the artificial distinction between disassociation and being inactive, and pointing out the fact that inactive people are also shunned, people who never disassociated from the organization.

  They never answered the question and should've been held in contempt of court.

  Who were the "superior authorities" in 2013 when this happened? They certainly weren't cooperating with them if they were considered to be earthly authorities at that time.

  Also, their faux humility comes across as very slimey.
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  Will Amazon be delivering today?

  by Iamallcool in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i got different answers on google!

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  GrreatTeacher

  Amazon delivers every damn day to my neighbors. They must order stuff every day.

  US postal service delivered packages on Christmas day. They are delivering regular mail today.

  I cannot imagine Amazon not delivering today.