#2,#3 and #4...and not all of my family just some of them, (The elders)- I did to try to find answers but they just wanted me to study with a sister the things that I already knew and had doubts about. I tried but it just reinforced the doubts
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Ozzie's Weekend Poll #61
by ozziepost inowyergoin?
how's the weekend for you?.
mrs ozzie and i have been enjoying being out for a drive in the highlands in the bright spring sunshine.
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Stupidest thing a JW ever told you
by Nosferatu inwhat is the stupidest thing a jw ever told you?
we all know that they say a lot of stupid things, but what really topped the cake?.
for me, it was an elder telling me i was progressing really well when my meeting attendance was down and my field service hours were slipping.
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dancnfool_60
From the platform the PO also told all the sisters that they were not dressed right, That our skirts should not be TOO long....LOL...he said they should not be above the knee and no longer than two inches below the knee.....if they were longer than two inches below they were considered to be formals and not apropriate for the Kingdom Hall.
Then he said that there is a place and time for everything so the year I pioneered all pioneers had to eat their lunch in their cars and freeze thier asses off for the sake of keeping the kingdom hall a sacred place.
but I think one of the clinchers was when my mother was dying of cancer and she had pioneered for over 10yrs, the elders did not come by to see her but one time. They wanted her to sign a paper to send to NY to take her off the pioneer list. they wanted her to resign. My dad told them she was sleeping they would have to come back later and talk to her in person. Well they never did, we found out later that one of the elders forged her name and sent it off.
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Stupidest thing a JW ever told you
by Nosferatu inwhat is the stupidest thing a jw ever told you?
we all know that they say a lot of stupid things, but what really topped the cake?.
for me, it was an elder telling me i was progressing really well when my meeting attendance was down and my field service hours were slipping.
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dancnfool_60
there are so many things told that are just unbelievable
last year the elders told me that I was not scripturaly free because my ex took back his admission of adultry. I asked all the elders and the CO where in the Bible it says that at the mouth of two or more witnesses a matter is made firm (unless you take it back).
the CO told me that I may be right about this but I have to wait until the faithful slave comes to that realization....
NOW!!!!!!......wouldnt that make me smarter than God...if the faithful slave gets thier info straight from God?
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Bad odor expereinces at the Kingdom Hall
by Joker10 ini personally didn't smell anything funny inside a kh.
lol.
but do anyone of you have had bad experiences like having to hold your breath because the person sitting right next to you really smelled?
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YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
there was a sister who never wore deoderant. but the worst was this one brother who would clean out his ears with his fingernails then clean his fingernails with his teeth during the meeting. -
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Sometimes, it just ain't any fun...
by safe4kids ini took my kids on a vacation to disney world...their dream vacation, actually, although it didn't turn out that way.
midway through we get a call that their grandmother (the real one, who was never a dub and who hasn't ever turned her back on the kids or on me even thru my divorce from her son, unlike my own jw mother) is in serious condition at the hospital.
we spent one of our 'vacation' days sitting in a hospital icu waiting room, timing our 15 minute visits so that we could see her, and throughout it all the kids were troopers.
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HI Dana,
I have been searhing thru topics and ran across yours, I wonder at this time how things are? My mother at 57 got terminal bone marrow cancer, I truly understand your pain. It was very hard on my children,10 and 12 at that time. At first they wanted to go and be with her but it was a 5 yr process of seeing her deteriorate and become someone who was very hard to be around. I had to let the kids do whatever they felt they needed to do to cope. If they wanted to go with me I took them if they didn't I just hugged them and told them it was ok that grandma was probably gonna sleep most that day anyhow. Try to take any guilt off their little minds of not being able to be in that enviornment. My mothers condition lasted 5 yrs so by the time she actually passed away the kids were accustomed to the situation. They actually had a more difficult time when thier Aunt (my sister passed away)....she was only 37 and was visiting the weekend to help me with our mother one week and just didnt wake up.....NOW my daughter ecspecially started thinking everyone she loved was going to die or get cancer and die. The kids were extremely close to their Aunt, would spend a month each summer with her. Alll of us couldnt deal with it. It was so sudden, no history of ilness, Heart just stopped. For over a year afterward I was angry at everything and everyone. It just didnt seem right that she didnt get to know what her niece and nephew were up to. Or when her nephew got married, or niece graduated....It just didnt seem fair or right that a life is so easy to take away and so many forget.
End results were, my daughter had to go to some counseling and be on antidepressants for a few years, my son just hid it all inside and the anger built and built.he is now 24 and I am not really sure if he himself has come to total terms with theses things yet, I beleive he has pushed them all in the back of his mind and is concentrateing on his marraige and son...which, if he can cope that way I always want the best for him. I did offer to take him to counseling also but he didnt want to bring thins up and feel the pain again.
as far as one who is terminally ill........most of the time Hospice will come in to help. at the end of the tragedy they offer counseling on subject such as loss of a mate
loss of a parent
loss of a grandparent
and adult children coping with the loss of a parent
loss of a sibling
I went to one of these classes and they are very kind and supportive and you are with others going thru the same thing. there is a lot of support.
I realize several months have gone by now and the probability of your mother in law still being with you is not a good one..I just hope you can find comfort and understanding....Remember the old saying......." you don't know how a person feels until you walk a mile in his shoes"
this is so true and those at hospice have walked that mile in your shoes and can give true support, not just "oh I am sorry, call me if you need anything,", or " at least she isnt in pain anymore"
you will get the time to cry and laugh over memories and all the hugs you need.
my heart truly aches for this time you are going thru...when the greiveing process begins allow yourself to feel everything your heart is telling you to feel, you HAVE to go thry each stage to heal and your children will need this also....it is a tough time and I hated when people told me "time heals all wounds" this wasnt just a wound it was my mother and sister.
but time has helped me cope and it will you also even though right now you dont ever think it will........((((((love you all)))))))))
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Is there a statute of limitations on serious sin???????
by dancnfool_60 inseveral years ago there was a person in the position of pioneer in the congregation i was attending.
this person had a very dark side, had a way of manipulating others to think what this person wanted them to.
this person also had a very shady past and apparantly had not totally put on that new personality and done away with all of the old.
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I want to thank everyone with thier responses. Sometimes I just feel alone in these thinkings but finding this site has helped me see I am not crazy. I know that the unity is not there and that is why some get diciplined and some don't. All I have really been serching for is answers from the scriptures but I am beginnning to see that there arnt any answers for the questions I am asking..(scripturaly). Only mans opinions or interpretations
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JW friends, did you keep any?
by Victorian sky injust wondering.
how many of you have kept any active jw friends?
i have a few i've known for years.
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I was raised this way and raised my children this way, maybe because the 3 frineds that have stuck by me have been there a long long time, but any friends that are not rooted in years don't stay friends......I have realized that even though my 3 loyal friends have stuck by myside I can not talk with them about anything related to JW that is my true feelings...but every situaltion is different, my brother for ex. faded away a little over a year ago and everyone shuns him because he grew a beard, I guess if I ever make an outward apearance not accepted by thier values then I will also be totally shunned. until then I am just keeping my mouth shut and trying to be true to myself for the first time in my life...just try not to get in debates with them over your feelings and try to cherish the fact that they have not left you and find some other common ground......that is what I am trying to do and it seems to work best
hope your days become brighter and happier
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Is there a statute of limitations on serious sin???????
by dancnfool_60 inseveral years ago there was a person in the position of pioneer in the congregation i was attending.
this person had a very dark side, had a way of manipulating others to think what this person wanted them to.
this person also had a very shady past and apparantly had not totally put on that new personality and done away with all of the old.
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well, there are several other things that have happened like that so the claim that they are..(UNITED) is so far from the truth...
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Is there a statute of limitations on serious sin???????
by dancnfool_60 inseveral years ago there was a person in the position of pioneer in the congregation i was attending.
this person had a very dark side, had a way of manipulating others to think what this person wanted them to.
this person also had a very shady past and apparantly had not totally put on that new personality and done away with all of the old.
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dancnfool_60
several years ago there was a person in the position of Pioneer in the congregation I was attending. This person had a very dark side, had a way of manipulating others to think what this person wanted them to. This person also had a very shady past and apparantly had not totally put on that new personality and done away with all of the old. While in position of pioneer committed a gross serious sin that involved a close associate of mine. I did not find out about this until 10 yrs after the fact. But the second person involved had been eated up for 10 yrs with guilt and trying to keep this person from getting others involved also. Finally when it came out in the open, the second person involved was no longer around and I heard from a newly baptized person at that hall that this pioneer had tried to get (he/she) involved in the same type of sin that had been comitted 10 yrs prior with that second individual. She was very upset and took the matter to the elders who said they had never had any problems with this person...LIE!!!!!!!!!!......because right before the second person involved disapeared (he/she) told the elders what had happened and all blame was put on that individual..NOT THE PIONEER.
This upset me to the point that I could not go out in service, because the third person was someone I studied with and I felt like I had told them all these wonderful things about the org. and now this has happened. So when the CO came for his visit I told him I had lost all joy for the field service because how can I tell people to come into this wonderful Org when I know what is happening. I told him that I am not out to get that pioneer disfellowshiped because I dont know if there was any repentance in anykind of meeting with the elders but how can that person still hold a position when others know about what happened. He said he would check on it and after a week came back and told me that the serious sin was committed about 10 yrs prior and this new incident that I just brought to his attention was about 4 yrs old. so they are too old to dicipline this pioneer for......
PLEASE....where in the bible does it say there is a statute of limitation on serious sin
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