@ Cantleave:
Yeah, I was thinking the bezel colour was off, and the dial is weird. I think it's an Invicta diver with their gold "meterorite" style dial. That, or just a plain old fake. (just like the GB)
i just started to watch the february broadcast when i noticed a metallic rattle over the drone of sam's voice.
(does that man speak with a mouth full of chowin' tobacco or is he choking on the rubbish he reads off the autocue?).
yep it's his rolex.
@ Cantleave:
Yeah, I was thinking the bezel colour was off, and the dial is weird. I think it's an Invicta diver with their gold "meterorite" style dial. That, or just a plain old fake. (just like the GB)
i just started to watch the february broadcast when i noticed a metallic rattle over the drone of sam's voice.
(does that man speak with a mouth full of chowin' tobacco or is he choking on the rubbish he reads off the autocue?).
yep it's his rolex.
So THIS is what the Congregation funds bought! Freakin' thieving basturds!
PS: I'm very fond of Glashutte Original, Evo Sport GMT suits me just fine!
i just started to watch the february broadcast when i noticed a metallic rattle over the drone of sam's voice.
(does that man speak with a mouth full of chowin' tobacco or is he choking on the rubbish he reads off the autocue?).
yep it's his rolex.
This interests me, as I used to be pretty big watch enthusiast, with a decent collection.
The polished center links of the bracelet give it away as a true Rolex. Even Invicta's don't really have it like that. However, the purple reflection off the rotating bezel makes me want to say it's a fake. Real Rolex's don't really have a purple hue.....it's more blue, though different lighting can cause this effect.
I find it amazing that it's not even a "regular" gold Rolex Submariner....oh no! It's one with a "Serti" dial. This would extra $$$$$$ for sure.
Possibilities:
1. Real Rolex Submariner with Serti dial. Sam could claim a rich brother bought it for him, but what does it say that Sam kept it? Imagine how many Kingdom Halls a $22,000 USD Rolex watch could build in Africa, where Andre probably lives?
2. Fake Rolex Sam bought off the NYC street. Probably cost $75.00. It's fake, and what does that say about Sam being such a gigantic POSUER that he's wearing a fake watch to represent the one "True" religion? Irony anyone?
3. Possible Invicta homage. Invicta makes some good cheap watches, and they did at one time make one with a gold Serti dial. You can still buy them if you look around.
Hey, Judge Rutherford had not 1, but 2 16 cylinder Cadillac's during the Great Depression while JW's suffered. What's a Gold Rolex and an Infinity to these guys? Pocket change.
- Wing Commander
check out the song about the trolley at the end of this month's dubcast.. http://www.jw.org/download/?fileformat=mp4&output=html&pub=jwb&issue=201502.
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you must see the musical video at the end of this month program (aprox.
at 1:04:30).... i don't like to use "must" but this is wow... if you think they couldn't get any lower... just be prepared...
check out the song about the trolley at the end of this month's dubcast.. http://www.jw.org/download/?fileformat=mp4&output=html&pub=jwb&issue=201502.
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With each passing month, my jaw falls harder onto the floor, and I strain to pick it back up and attach it to my skull.
What the h*ll was THAT? I am 35. I was told all thru my youth that Disney and movies that gave human voice or human attributes to animals or inanimate objects was "promoting magic", and was "like Satan the Devil", and to be avoided at all costs. And now, to see THIS? You gotta be kidding me! Door-to-door in the 1980's was h*ll as a kid. Knocking on the doors of your schoolmates, being made an a** out of and never living it down. Now, all the youth have to do is trout out this literature cart and start their time while they walk the mall or surf at the beach while the cart "does the witnessing" for them up on the boardwalk. Incredible!!!!!!!!!!
And if that simple-minded musical ear-rape wasn't bad enough, having Sam Herd sit there and tell us that "Unity in all aspects of our life glorifies God...." and "Unity is the sign of true worship......." are such twisted statements. He meant to say, "Obedience to the Governing Body is equal to glorifying God, no matter what we tell you."
Crazy, cultist, LOONS! So much for being able to actually defend or explain your beliefs from the BIBLE.....Nope! Now it's just whip out the iPad and direct unsuspecting, gullible public to the jw cult website. Incredible!!!!
- Wing Commander
you must see the musical video at the end of this month program (aprox.
at 1:04:30).... i don't like to use "must" but this is wow... if you think they couldn't get any lower... just be prepared...
With each passing month, my jaw falls harder onto the floor, and I strain to pick it back up and attach it to my skull.
What the h*ll was THAT? I am 35. I was told all thru my youth that Disney and movies that gave human voice or human attributes to animals or inanimate objects was "promoting magic", and was "like Satan the Devil", and to be avoided at all costs. And now, to see THIS? You gotta be kidding me! Door-to-door in the 1980's was h*ll as a kid. Knocking on the doors of your schoolmates, being made an a** out of and never living it down. Now, all the youth have to do is trout out this literature cart and start their time while they walk the mall or surf at the beach while the cart "does the witnessing" for them up on the boardwalk. Incredible!!!!!!!!!!
And if that simple-minded musical ear-rape wasn't bad enough, having Sam Herd sit there and tell us that "Unity in all aspects of our life glorifies God...." and "Unity is the sign of true worship......." are such twisted statements. He meant to say, "Obedience to the Governing Body is equal to glorifying God, no matter what we tell you."
Crazy, cultist, LOONS! So much for being able to actually defend or explain your beliefs from the BIBLE.....Nope! Now it's just whip out the iPad and direct unsuspecting, gullible public to the jw cult website. Incredible!!!!
- Wing Commander
if they are this happy, why do they keep taking down this video?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evulyocziz8&feature=youtu.be.
How can the WT have Youtube take it down? I have seen ZERO copyright notices on the video by JW.org
I find it amazing that they want an internet presence, then go to all ends and means to have their own videos or videos sanctioned by them taken down from the internet. It's like they haven't caught on that once something is put on the 'net, it will STAY on the Net FOREVER, no matter what they do or how they fight. It's free, people share and record, share and record, save and record and share.....on and on. Their is no "information control" on the Net. It is "out there" for all to see.
I think it's funny that they canned what? 1200+ older Bethelites a few years ago, and now they filled it back up with fresh young faces. Faces that know NOTHING of the iron-fist of the JW.Borg. So in a sense, the GB can not only allow, but actively sanction these types of "Happy" Bullsh*t videos with dancing and sunshine, and there are practically NO old-timers left to complain about the audacity of it all. It's fresh, smiling new clueless faces. And if you are our age 35-40 years old and dare to complain about this "brazen" display of worldliness, you'll likely be getting a talking to by your Overseer and maybe even a free ticket back to your home Congregation.
The JW cult has reinvented itself. It's a fresh new century, with fresh new technology, and the manipulative, greedy, Governing Body v2.0 is at the helm. Better hold on to your hats, this next quarter century is going to be a bumpy ride. The mainstreaming of the cult no likely includes: 1.) All blood transfusions and blood components/fractions allowed, so merciful! 2.) 1914 Generation forgotten 3.) New Covenant open to all, with 144,ooo being "figurative" just all the rest of Christianity 4.) GB still our mediator, but heaven open to hall, with Paradise Earth existing as well in the future 5.) All public talks and info broadcast throughout the world via internet TV from Headquarters to each Congregation worldwide. No more traveling speakers. 6.) Mandatory tithing, although one could argue we are seeing that now via mandatory donation pledges 7.) More information control and rigid rules to keep people in line.
- Wing Commander
it seams like every time i turn around i find out that the elders are trying to meet with one of my kids or are talking with them about things and of course my wife is instigating it.
if i say anything to my children she mentions something and they come running.
one of the ms's is also studying with them as well.
The WT writer of the Commentary of James was NOT Ray Franz, it was Ed Dunlap. It was quite popular, but is rarely talked about since Ed was "voided" out of Headquarters for not towing the party line in the great shake up of the early 1980's.
- Wing Commander
listener gave a link to a short version.
not taking away from that post but here is a more complete version, 2 minutes longer.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnbmyudrwgs.
What the h*ll?!?!?!?! Now I've seen it all. I agree with above, there is NO WAY this was done in secret or by a few rogue young Bethel kids. Nope, this is pure PR propaganda going on here. I mean, it was filmed at ALL of the major locations of the WatchTower......the farm, Columbia Heights, Walkill, and even the brand new HeadQuarters and housing facilities. That's a totally inside job with permissions and access to everything and every building, with the full "blessings" from the top down. This was made to entice the unknowing youth to come slave away for the WT corporation for free during the best years of their lives building real estate holdings. We'll see how freakin' "Happy" these young people are in 30 years or so when they are all used up and worn out, and Bethel sends them packing with ZERO benefits, retirement funds, etc. Just a nice note to go back to their home congregations and "be warm and well fed."
How about asking those 1200+ Bethelites who were kicked out on their bums just a few short years ago how "Happy" they are all now? My ass!!!!!!!!
I also agree with above that a few short years ago this type of "worldly" behavior would have NEVER been tolerated. These kids would have been rounded up in JC's and the promptly shown the door. Can anyone imagine Knorr allowing this? Hahahahahahaha!! Very, very true that this religion resembles NOTHING of what I grew up in. Totally different "feel good" BS Cult where it's members wouldn't know how to defend anything using literature or Bible at the doors. PATHETIC! I'm pretty much having to pick my jaw up off the floor after seeing this "brazen" behavior so openly shown and promoted, and I'm only 35.....not 50, 60, 70.
- Wing Commander