are you on the road to everlasting life?.
note to the speaker: help bible students and interested ones to understand why and how to make further spiritual progress..
emphasize the many sources of help available, and warmly encourage them to act without delay.
Gotta love how if you are "not in line", then by God you are required to put on the new "Cult of Personality" that JW's require.
F*ck them and their "requirements." My God doesn't need me in a business suit. He doesn't need my money either, as he already owns the entire universe.
anyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.
bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.
i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.
Geezus! Is this thread still going? C'mon guys.....no need to argue the semantics of where all the world's legal or illegal firearms come from. It's been noted and documented that the shooter (original subject of this thread) obtained his GLOCK 19 legally. No denying it.
I actually think the more productive discussion was the one dealing with the semantics of what some of us consider "mentally ill", responsibly mental illness, how mental illness does or doesn't cause paranoid racism, and also the effects of the JW upbringing which this man clearly had and the effect it had on his psyche. (it did, no denying it.)
Enough about pros/cons of America and it's love of the ultimate phallic symbol: Donald Trump's toupee. lol
I am kind of surprised that after 13 years, THIS is the thread that has gotten me the most responses. Interesting.
http://www.people.com/article/vester-lee-flanagan-bryce-willams-the-man-who-allegedly-shot-3-people-live-tv.
people magazine: who was vester lee flanagan, the man who allegedly shot 3 people on live tv?.
born in 1973 in oakland, california, to vester and betty flanagan, he was raised as a strict jehovah's witness.
How much money do you want to bet that the "childhood friend", Shaun Barton, who was mentioned in the article, is a full-fledged JW from the Congregation of the shooter's youth? How can you guess this? By his choice of wording. How many "worldly" people use the term, "get-togethers"? This is JW terminology. "Worldly" people use the terms, "picnic, family reunions, BBQ's, and parties", not "get-togethers".
Of course Shaun's going to paint a rosy JW picture of bliss, he's an indoctrinated JW zombie! Wonder what the worldly relatives of this shooter's family have to say about the JW cult members? Probably NOT good things. You'd probably get the real "truth" from them. How the shooter was a closeted homosexual, even in his youth, and fought against those feelings his entire life.
This guy was WHACK, and after 41 years he snapped. Too bad he took innocent people down with him. Sad all around.
anyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.
bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.
i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.
Nah, he wasn't mentally ill. Jehovah spoke to him, just like he speaks to the Governing Body.
He was as sane as a Judge.
***FACE PALM***
anyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.
bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.
i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.
Ok, away from the "gun aspect" of this story, and back to part of the matter. Here is a tidbit I just discovered on a news site describing some of the murderers problems from his personnel file:
"Dennison said Flanagan reported straight from a press release "instead of doing some original reporting," documents said.
Flanagan also filed "gratuitous coverage and promotion" of a church instead of using "critical thinking and questioning skills to produce truly memorable television stories," Dennison's memo said."
Wow!!!! I wonder which "Church" Flanagan was gratuitously promoting? Can you believe they actually wrote that he lacked "critical thinking skills"? CULT ALERT! CULT ALERT! There is no doubt in my mind being raised a JW definitely contributed to his psychosis.
anyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.
bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.
i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.
Felons can't get guns. Period.
I will say this, I am NOT against ALL gun control. I also believe people don't need fully automatic weapons or silencers. Semi-auto is fine by me. I only have (1) bolt action rifle with 6-round magazine. However, it's the most dangerous in my hands. Why? Because I can hit a 2" circle at 600 meters with it. No need for full or semi auto. It's not even classified as an "assault rifle." It's technically a biathlon rifle made in Sweden. Tikka T3 Sporter.
anyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.
bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.
i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.
I never said Air Marshalls were on ALL flights. What I said, was that they were on a good number of "high-risk" flights. I'm thinking terrorists know that between armed Air Marshalls, and the fact that US Citizens aren't going to just roll over and play dead anymore, that they are a bit deterred?
As for the post above about internet
gun sales in America. So what? I've bought many a firearm thru such
sites. Guess what? In each case, I've had to meet the seller at a
licensed Gun Shop, fill out ALL the required federal and state
paperwork, go thru an immediate insta-check, before I could walk out
with said firearm. Do you even know what you are talking about? The
people who sell their firearms without going thru the proper procedures,
are in fact - BREAKING THE LAW! I myself have put "For Sale" ads on
such sites. It is not illegal to sell your firearm. It is illegal to
sell it privately without going thru a BATF FFL licensed dealer in order
to do so. This is how BATF track ALL weapons. People breaking our laws
is what is causing a lot of this mess to begin with!!!!!! Criminals
do things criminally!! Felons don't purchase weapons honestly. Think
criminals in Ireland or Australia don't have firearms? It's this
ignorance and ignoring of the laws that we DO have in place that is
causing it to be bad for the majority of the law-abiding citizens in the
USA to continue to have firearms.
anyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.
bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.
i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.
I'm actually shocked that the charts above with real actual statistics is still showing up. If we delete them, does that mean they don't really exist, ala 1984? lol
anyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.
bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.
i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.
Uh oh.......FACTS just showed up. I think I hear the crickets warming up.............
But I digress. The man who did the killing of innocent people, had a history of paranoid, delusional behavior. By his own admission he claimed Jehovah God told him to take care of these people because of the impending race war, and also because everyone was out to get him because he was such apparently the best gay male paid companion that money could buy! (from his Twitter account postings)
Crazy. His method of execution is irrelevant, only his outcome. I'm d*mn sorry this thread spiraled out of control to be nothing more than a shout-down of American rights as seen by foreigners who don't even live here and don't appreciate rights they themselves aren't "allowed" to possess.
anyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.
bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.
i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.
This thread is way off-topic, no matter where your stance on American gun laws.
It has come out that the man who did this shooting, clearly was paranoid, delusional, and very angry. He himself made the statement that "Jehovah told me to do these things", etc.
He made a lot of racist statements too.....but I honestly don't feel he was a racist because he hated white people, I think his underlying psychological disorders turned him that way. Also, the JW Cult upbringing of, "us vs. them" mentality really feeds into paranoid, delusional behavior.
The weapon he choose is of secondary concern. As stated before, he could have run them down with a truck, beat them with a baseball bat or club, etc. His underlying mental issues are the culprit of this behavior, and the fact that he didn't get help for said problems because he didn't feel he had them. (he did!!)
