My fiance (now wife) first meeting with me was the Memorial. She was shocked that no one partook of the emblems, merely passed them around. Only 144K are "allowed" to partake? Ridiculous! Why bother to even show up? For what? REJECTING the emblems of Christ? I was pretty awake by that point, but her comments really shock me. Especially when she said we were rejecting Christ. I had never in my life thought about it like that, but it was true! We weren't accepting him into our lives, we were rejecting the emblems and passing them on without a second thought. Whack! She spoke to an Elder (The PO actually) and she had questions. He really couldn't answer them....he was too "busy". I'm sure.....too busy to answer the legitimate questions of a lowly worldly "woman". He's dead.....a beam fell on his head at a construction site....a quick build or assembly hall project I heard.....so much for Jah's Divine Protection, huh?
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Did You Ever Hear a Non-Witness Opinion After They'd Attended Their first Meeting?
by snugglebunny ini was about 12. i took a friend along to a meeting and he said he didn't mind learning stuff but it was a shame it was so boring.. i was about 14. i had my very own bible study and took him along.
he just kept whispering about the girls there that he fancied.. i was in my early 20's.
i took along a lady that i knew.
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A Judicial experience.
by John Aquila inwhen i was an elder in the 80s, a 16 year old baptized jw girl had confessed that at school during lunch a boy kissed her and touched her privates over her dress.
the circuit overseer was in town and we told him of the situation and he called the society and then told us that mother said we were not allowed to conduct the funeral in the kingdom hall or anywhere else with the threat of removing us and being dealt with judicially if we disobeyed.
the mother who is about 79 years old comes once a year to talk to my mom about the situation.
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OMG, that story is really F*cked!!!!! I really, really wonder what the 16-yr old girl had to say to you about what had happened to her for 3 whole hours?? I bet that one really eats at you huh? That you didn't get to hear her side of the story?
Also, she was DF'd for merely being felt up by a worldly boy at school lunch? You mean to tell me her confession to such teenage mischief wasn't enough to show repentance? What the hell is WRONG with these people? Think about it......if she weren't so brainwashed from the cradle on up to feel guilty about EVERYTHING, she wouldn't have even mentioned this to adults, wouldn't have been DF'd, wouldn't have had a car accident, would still be alive and well, probably with kids of her own experimenting with normal teenage things. Totally whack!!!
And to add insult to injury, this whacked out CULT wouldn't allow this poor girl's family to have the funeral at the Kingdom Hall? I can't believe the family didn't leave then (not just the brother) , and instead - shunned the brother? WTF is wrong with these people? Cruel, sick, CULT!
God is love. This cult is EVIL.
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VA shooting suspect was raised a JW! He mentions it on his Twitter account
by WingCommander inanyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.
bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.
i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.
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Want to know what's really sad BoeingStratofortress, etc?
I would have LOVED to have been in the military, especially the Navy or Air Force. At 6'-1" and 200 lbs, and @ 9% body fat, I'm in better shape than the 18 year old boys half my age entering. I actually still get recruiters at the Gold's I work out in asking if they could sign me up. However, I am unable to serve, and that's not because of my pacifist, f*cked up JW upbringing. No. My father was a Veteran of Vietnam. No. It's because I'm totally deaf in my left ear, have been since birth. Automatic disqualification. Doesn't matter how good a shape I'm in. This same congenital "defect" also disqualifies me from ever obtaining my pilot's license.
I really resent the biased, slanted, automatic assumption that everyone on here that enjoys firearms is some Wal-Mart shopping, fat, beer gutted, bubba, wanna-be machoist Rambo. Or, some wanna-be Chuck Yeager in Ray-bans, leather jacket, and Breitling. I'll have you know that I DO wear Ray-Bans (mirrored blue polarized), that match my navy blue Alpha CWU-45P flight jacket, and OMEGA SpeedMaster watch. (Breitling is for posuers - I'll agree to that!!!!) I wear the Alpha CWU-45P, because it's large front pockets allows me to legally conceal-carry any of my pistols, none of which are MIL-SPEC, cause they are all set up for target/bullseye shooting and/or are just small carry pistols to begin with. (Ruger LCP, LCR, Glock 43)
Don't know where half you guys live, but I gotta think you're judging alot of Americans based on Rambo films, John Travolta's Breitling ads, and the 24/7 glorification of violence that our news media keeps pumping out. It's really sad that you all feel that way about us. That's like me making the broad statement that all Brits have horrible teeth and are stuck up asshats, because I've seen photos of Freddie Mercury and caught episodes of "Are you being served?"
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VA shooting suspect was raised a JW! He mentions it on his Twitter account
by WingCommander inanyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.
bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.
i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.
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Ummm.....most "Catholic/Protestant/Adventist/evangelical/WT/Buddhist/atheist" aren't high-control CULTS.
Jim Jones
David Koresh (Branch Davidians, an offshoot of SDA's)
Jeff Warrens
Heaven's Gate
Scientology
FLDS (and yeah, LDS)
JW's
Those are all high-control CULTS. So yeah, I'd say if you were raised in any of them chances are you are messed up mentally in some way, shape, or form. So therefore relevant.
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2016 SPECIAL TALK---ARE YOU ON THE ROAD TO EVERLASTING LIFE?
by suavojr inare you on the road to everlasting life?.
note to the speaker: help bible students and interested ones to understand why and how to make further spiritual progress..
emphasize the many sources of help available, and warmly encourage them to act without delay.
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Gotta love how if you are "not in line", then by God you are required to put on the new "Cult of Personality" that JW's require.
F*ck them and their "requirements." My God doesn't need me in a business suit. He doesn't need my money either, as he already owns the entire universe.
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VA shooting suspect was raised a JW! He mentions it on his Twitter account
by WingCommander inanyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.
bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.
i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.
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Geezus! Is this thread still going? C'mon guys.....no need to argue the semantics of where all the world's legal or illegal firearms come from. It's been noted and documented that the shooter (original subject of this thread) obtained his GLOCK 19 legally. No denying it.
I actually think the more productive discussion was the one dealing with the semantics of what some of us consider "mentally ill", responsibly mental illness, how mental illness does or doesn't cause paranoid racism, and also the effects of the JW upbringing which this man clearly had and the effect it had on his psyche. (it did, no denying it.)
Enough about pros/cons of America and it's love of the ultimate phallic symbol: Donald Trump's toupee. lol
I am kind of surprised that after 13 years, THIS is the thread that has gotten me the most responses. Interesting.
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People Magazine: Who Was Vester Lee Flanagan, the Man Who Allegedly Shot 3 People on Live TV?
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.people.com/article/vester-lee-flanagan-bryce-willams-the-man-who-allegedly-shot-3-people-live-tv.
people magazine: who was vester lee flanagan, the man who allegedly shot 3 people on live tv?.
born in 1973 in oakland, california, to vester and betty flanagan, he was raised as a strict jehovah's witness.
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How much money do you want to bet that the "childhood friend", Shaun Barton, who was mentioned in the article, is a full-fledged JW from the Congregation of the shooter's youth? How can you guess this? By his choice of wording. How many "worldly" people use the term, "get-togethers"? This is JW terminology. "Worldly" people use the terms, "picnic, family reunions, BBQ's, and parties", not "get-togethers".
Of course Shaun's going to paint a rosy JW picture of bliss, he's an indoctrinated JW zombie! Wonder what the worldly relatives of this shooter's family have to say about the JW cult members? Probably NOT good things. You'd probably get the real "truth" from them. How the shooter was a closeted homosexual, even in his youth, and fought against those feelings his entire life.
This guy was WHACK, and after 41 years he snapped. Too bad he took innocent people down with him. Sad all around.
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VA shooting suspect was raised a JW! He mentions it on his Twitter account
by WingCommander inanyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.
bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.
i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.
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Nah, he wasn't mentally ill. Jehovah spoke to him, just like he speaks to the Governing Body.
He was as sane as a Judge.
***FACE PALM***
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VA shooting suspect was raised a JW! He mentions it on his Twitter account
by WingCommander inanyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.
bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.
i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.
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Ok, away from the "gun aspect" of this story, and back to part of the matter. Here is a tidbit I just discovered on a news site describing some of the murderers problems from his personnel file:
"Dennison said Flanagan reported straight from a press release "instead of doing some original reporting," documents said.
Flanagan also filed "gratuitous coverage and promotion" of a church instead of using "critical thinking and questioning skills to produce truly memorable television stories," Dennison's memo said."
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VA shooting suspect was raised a JW! He mentions it on his Twitter account
by WingCommander inanyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.
bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.
i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.
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WingCommander
Felons can't get guns. Period.
I will say this, I am NOT against ALL gun control. I also believe people don't need fully automatic weapons or silencers. Semi-auto is fine by me. I only have (1) bolt action rifle with 6-round magazine. However, it's the most dangerous in my hands. Why? Because I can hit a 2" circle at 600 meters with it. No need for full or semi auto. It's not even classified as an "assault rifle." It's technically a biathlon rifle made in Sweden. Tikka T3 Sporter.
