WingCommander
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2012 New York Olympic nomination has a correlation with WTS property management
by Gorbatchov ini told earlier that i have a longtime contact with a friendly and valuable non-witness insider in the jw-leadership.
our contact has lead to friendship.
i had some fun and it was remarkable to see some reactions on this board, that there are no non-witness insiders.
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WingCommander
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CEDARS (Again) Is it really about religious beliefs?
by Listener injohn cedars has posted his latest blog "the trouble with apostates (and why it shouldn't put you off becoming one)".
i acknowledge that he is entitled to his opionin just as we are ours but i am disappointed in some of his comments.. at this stage i'll try to be objective about it.
he is defending his own position after all.. what bothers me most is his comments about athiests and christians which he seems to identify as being in conflict with each other.
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WingCommander
Does he even still go by "John Cedars?" Why not just Lloyd Evens? Or possibly Harry & the Hendersons?
It's all so confusing. I mean, it's like JW's claiming Jesus is Micheal the Archangel.
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CEDARS (Again) Is it really about religious beliefs?
by Listener injohn cedars has posted his latest blog "the trouble with apostates (and why it shouldn't put you off becoming one)".
i acknowledge that he is entitled to his opionin just as we are ours but i am disappointed in some of his comments.. at this stage i'll try to be objective about it.
he is defending his own position after all.. what bothers me most is his comments about athiests and christians which he seems to identify as being in conflict with each other.
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WingCommander
Would you all like to take a guess, as to how many sh*ts I give about John Cedars?
Recently, he showed off his printing prowess by illegally printing off Ray Franz's COC, and putting his logo/website on the back of it. (probably made some $$$ off that!!!!!!)
After I saw THAT sh*t, I knew Cedars was an attention-seeking con.
Next up for Cedars: Recording himself pepper spraying little old pioneers that knock on his door, then posting on his website that the GB henchmen are "stalking" him and persecuting him because he's blowing the trumpet on them and exposing them as the charlatans that they are. Sighing and moaning, sighing and moaning. Too bad, too bad!
Also, someone get that guy a razor. He looks like a freakin' BUM!!!!
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Watchtower properties for sale website
by NewYork44M inhere is a great site in case anyone is interested in acquiring wt property in brooklyn heights.
https://www.watchtowerbrooklynrealestate.com/.
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WingCommander
DUMBO stands for:
Down Under the Manhattan Bridge Overpass
^^ It's a New York slang, thing.
I can't believe what I'm seeing. All that property, all that MONEY!!! My parents and older ones from my youth must be spinning in their graves!!!! This religion/cult has gone totally bonkers and commercialized. It's a helluva sight.
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A True short story
by Terry in____a true story___.
shortly after the incident, i drove back along the pacific coast in a euphoric daze of confusion, tears, and exhilaration; there was no place for it to go inside my head.
i pulled over on the shoulder of the road and sat in stunned silence.
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WingCommander
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The FINAL DAYS are here !!!
by Calebs Airplane inaccording to this jw video... now is the time to preach without fear!
now that the final days are here!.
the final days were not here previously (as they kept insisting for over 140 years)... but now they are!.
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WingCommander
You just know that poor kid is a virgin, and he's going to remain one for a LONG time if he continues to allow Mommy to dress him like that.
Hey Kid: Ditch the bible thumping and cheap JC Penney suit, get some contacts, join a Gold's Gym, hit Hollister or PACSUN in the mall, and then MAYBE you'll be able to score - with an actual girl!!
Totally cringe-worthy piece of cult propaganda trash!
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The FINAL DAYS are here !!!
by Calebs Airplane inaccording to this jw video... now is the time to preach without fear!
now that the final days are here!.
the final days were not here previously (as they kept insisting for over 140 years)... but now they are!.
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WingCommander
I've said it before, and I'll say it again - WT is totally ripping off Scientology with these videos.
Listen to this sh*t, cheery, upbeat, bright songs about the Last / End / Final Days. That chorus clapping at the end, starting at 2:40 - that's total Scientology style. These retards can't even come up with their own tunes! SAD.
WT Corp put in offices down in Clearwater, Florida. Think that's a coincidence? That's central studio production for Scientology, and hence they are bumming off Scientology's "hip" "New-Agey" vibe. Blatant rip-off. I could puke, I really could!!!!
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For the Supporters of Those Who Love Jehovah
by lovesjehovah ini am jehovah's witness, despite some of the questionable teachings, crimes, and other outlandish behaviors of specific people affiliated with the religion.
i know that my relationship with jehovah is not influenced by any outside factors.
i do not condone any crime.
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WingCommander
So what you're saying, is that you're a closeted, celibate, homosexual wanna-be JW, who frequents Hookah Bars and hallucinates that the shadows on the moon are in fact moving, and that someday you will be so wealthy you will purchase this website domain from Simon and cast off all of the e-vile mentally diseased apostates, leaving only yourself and your other tight-pants wearing friends to feed each other grapes and pet panda forever?
Wheh! Good luck with that sh*t, buddy!
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Passionless loveless JW.ORG. How? Why? My experience with these Pharasees.
by Witness 007 inso i studied with this guy who is now an elder in my moms hall.
she has cancer and is black and blue from it.
we are like real family so i invite him over for drinks and pizza.
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WingCommander
I totally feel for you. I experienced the same, first with my father, then mother, than grandmother. JW's couldn't give 2 sh*ts about ailing members. ZILCH. Here is my story (re-posted) as it really shows the heartlessness my family was exposed to. Not trying to hijack your thread either, merely add my own to it. Hope your mother is able to beat that dreaded cancer.
REPOST:
Back in 2007, my mother finally had her liver transplant. She needed one due to a genetic disorder (Alpha-1, or A1AD). She never drank or did drugs in her life. She was in her early 50's. She got her liver, but had several complications which stretched out about 3 months. Unfortunately, she became terminal. I am an only child, my father died 8 years previously. I had to travel 250 miles each way to the UVa Medical Center (known for their bloodless tranplants) from Pennsylvania. The entire experience was pure hell on me and my family. 99 out of 100 people make it through the transplant and home. My mother was in the unfortunate 1% who don't make it.
A few days before her passing, she was still awake and with it. I knew the end was near, as I was power of attorney and making several medical descisions. I was away from my wife and son, 250 miles away at a huge medical center. I was sitting alone one evening in my car in the parking garage. I was alone, scared for my mother, and at one of the lowest points in my life. My mother was a JW for 25 years. Never been marked, reproved, DF'd, always in good standing. Got in decent hours, but that dropped as her health dropped. She was somewhat inactive for about the previous 5 years or so, but still known. I was never baptized, but obviously recognized as an approved associate, never bad association. I never did anything to gain that title.
I decided to call an Elder, the PO it turned out of our congregation. It was about 6-7:00 at night. One of his children answered, and when I asked for this Elder, he was put on. He explained they were in the middle of supper. I explained the situation to him. He said, "I'm sorry to hear about this situation Wing Commander, but what would you like ME to do about it?" I was like, "Uh...well my mother and I could use some spiritual support at this time, etc, etc......" I couldn't believe I actually had to explain this to him. Do you know what this guy, whom I thought was a nice fellow by the way (never had a problem with him until this point) actually said to me? He said he'd have to look up the names of the LOCAL congregation Elders down in Virginia, and that THEY could come and shephard me and my dying mother. He'd "get back to me." He then promptly said goodbye and hung up. By the way, he offered up NO scriptures, no spiritual support at all on the phone - NONE.....and this guy is an Elder! I sat there in my car staring at my cell phone with my jaw about on my lap, alone at 7:00 at night, mother dying in the hospital across from me, and I just lost it - a grown man of 27, started to flat out BAWL in his car. It's like I snapped.....I couldn't believe how my mother and I had just been disregarded. What made the situation worse, is that I was informed by my mom's "Worldly" coworkers here in PA that they were taking 2 days off to come down in a van and visit with my terminal mother, cheer her up and say their goodbye's before her passing. I was floored by their insistance, and very grateful, and yet now here I was being handed a steaming hot pile of crap by a JW Elder that I actually trusted, a family man. And did he ever get back to me? - NO. I actually had to call him. He also didn't attend my mother's funeral or even call or send a card.
This is just one of the MANY fine examples of what the JW's call "Christian Love" that they pile upon their flock. I could go on and on with what I've lived and experienced while growing up in the JW religion. I wonder, how does YHWH God and Christ Jesus view such actions?? Are they proud to have Their names rubber-stamped by the Governing Body upon this religion?????
So many of my wife's (all non-JW's) as well as my own extended family (non-JWs) showed me and my family such love, hospitality, and warmth in my deepest hour of need. Even my mother's neighbours helped out around her house while she was in the hospital or offered me their services. Where were the JW friends of her and I that I grew up with for the past 25 years??? They were no where to be found!!!! None, NO ONE.
This identical treatment occured when my father died in 1999, my mother and I were left to fend for ourselves. That was my mom's wake-up call.
What of the "fine shephard" who couldn't be bothered to barely talk to me on the phone that evening back in 2007? Why, he was killed in a freak construction accident almost exactly a year later. I, unlike HIM, actually attended his "Memorial Service" out of respect for him and his family. It was the largest funeral I ever attended in my life, with about 1,000 people showing up due to him owning a business and JW's and Non-JW's attended. It was a disgusting and hypocritical funeral talk, as it spoke him playing SPORTS in high school, something all of us JW's are forbidden from doing, being as it brings undue attention and glory to the individual. Guess it was ok for him to do it though, huh? Of course it ended with an infomercial for the WT society of course. Several friends of mine who did work on job sites with his company and attended said it was the most awkward and worst funeral they ever attended.
I was tempted to get up in front of everyone and give my above "experience" with him, but decided against it. In the end, he was dead and not worth the effort. I feel I am the bigger man then him for attending his funeral even though he didn't attend my mother's.
By their love you will know them, indeed.
- Wing Commander
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Is the JW Broadcasting having good results for the Org?
by thewalker inwhen speaking with brothers, i can see they really like the jw.org site more than magazines and books.
i can imagine them publishing more and more articles and news as it's more dynamic and creates a sense of alert with brothers looking for new articles to read instead of the boring monthly magazines.. but when it comes to the jw broadcasting, it's something different.
even elders admit they aren't watching the monthly broadcastings.
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WingCommander
Please, please! Show us more of TOMO III, and Get-Bent Lett!! We just loooooove seeing those dumbasses make fools of themselves! Also, more 'splaining from Splain! He's so "intelligent."