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  Does it not dawn on the cart witnesses?

  by jambon1 in

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  i sat in town recently, right in the window of a nice wee pub.

  within minutes i realised that i had a perfect view of a jw cart and the two ridiculously dressed jw's (they have absolutely no individuality at all.

  what's more, they all look like they're going to a funeral).

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  My take?

  1.) They get in their hours.

  2.) If the occasional lonely old senile senior citizen or mentally incompetent person DOES happen to show some interest, while then "Jehovah must have drawn them near."

  That is what they think anyway, that Jehovah draws those near whom He chooses, so it doesn't matter how little the R&F do, or how many people pass by, it's all on Jehovah. Which begs the question: With Jehovah being able to read hearts and judge, and with Him drawing those near whom He chooses, why even bother with the field ministry in the first place? Seems like a huge waste of time. Oh wait, I forgot.......It's a cult!
  
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  Mouthy has Passed Away

  by Simon in

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  update on mouthy (grace gough)this is graces granddaughter.

  i wanted to send an update that today my beautiful grandmother passed away - surrounded by friends and family.

  - may 22 1927 - sept 2nd 2016. mouthys_granddaughter.

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  I am very sorry to hear about this lovely ladies passing. She was always a pleasure to speak to on this forum, and her insight and help as always appreciated by myself and many, many others. RIP to a very lovely lady.
  
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  One of those defining moments

  by Chook in

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  2. experiences

  2 years ago i'm at po house for bbq, his wife tells me about her hectic drive to work for one hour.

  i suggest car pooling from other women who work in same area, she goes on to explain that having to spend 1 hour each way with worldy women would affect her spirituality.

  there it is in its finest definition of christian loyalty .

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  She was afraid of contracting "wordly kooties".
  
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  A sucker is born every minute

  by Sour Grapes in

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  2. experiences

  i was an elder in the 1970's and i was not a big fan of the "stay alive until 75" dogma.

  i was looked down upon by the heavy hitters on the body of elders and in time i changed my mind.

  i knew of the failed prophecy of 1914 being the end of all times which was repeated for the year 1925...yet i came to believe well maybe this time they've got it right.. with every new watchtower, i combed over every word to find support for my change in my belief that the end was coming in fall of 1975. at the district assembly in 1975, everyone clung onto every word in the final talk.

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  Wait, Fred Franz actually stated that Adam might have been "eventually tempted into beasteality"? For real? That loon was really a sexual deviant, wasn't he?

  I would have asked ol' Freddy, how Adam could have been tempted into such a sinful act, when he was in fact PERFECT and without sin? Fred really was a complete LOON! Why anyone would take his rantings seriously is beyond me. Types and anti-types........what contrived bullsheet! Ugh.
  
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  Help Please - Finding It Hard Adjusting To The Real World

  by pale.emperor in

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  im asking for you guys help in a phase im going through right now.

  im sure it’ll pass but id appreciate your advice..

  born in, my family consists of mum, dad, two brothers and two sisters.

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  Don't tell your family ANYTHING about your GF, new life, etc. Only smile and look happy if you happen to see them. If they happen to break the silence and ask how you are, tell them you feel like a million dollars and are happier every day. They hate that. They WANT you to feel like this.....like a discarded piece of human trash. That way, you'll come crawling back and begging to be let back in. F' that! You are what, 31? I'd for d*mn sure be heading back to college and med school if I were you. Plenty of time to become a Dr. That will also get you out of this funk and get you around more intelligent, like-minded people and you'll become more social. Think about it! You have a new lease on life, might as well get on it!!!
  
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  "You will never grow old in this present system of things" -- some campaign tools

  by FatFreek 2005 in

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  i am approaching 76 years old.

  i can clearly recall that awake!

  statement and similar during the pre-1975 hype -- "staying alive in '75", et al.

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  My grandmother was born in 1918, after the first great World War, and right after her one brother died young from the Spanish influenza epidemic. Being in Pennsylvania, she was exposed to WT literature all growing up, as her family would sometimes accept magazines at the doors, etc. Finally, she became a JW in 1983 along with my father and mother. I was born in 1979. All I heard growing up from the podium to the assemblies, was how the New Order / New System was just around the corner, how none of us would die, and how I'd never grow old or have to worry about the standard "Worldly" problems. My grandmother died in 2003, at age 85. Both of my parents died as well. None of them were supposed to get old and die according to Rutherford. I shouldn't have even been born anywhere except the New System. Here I am. My family are all DEAD. Doesn't that make the WT a false prophet? I'd say so. I broke the pattern. My son is 12. He's never seen or heard of a Kingdom Hall. JW's? A nutty cult I was raised in, to be avoided unless he wants to end up a mess like me.
  
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  Shunning of Inactive ones- JW Broadcast

  by Theburstbubble in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've heard the new take on shunning inactive ones.

  i've seen the videos from the assemblies, but a few have mentioned that it was in a broadcast.

  does anyone know which broadcast it was, or a link to that section...i really don't want to have to watch the whole thing!.

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  I have seen a talk from a convention this summer, as an intro to the one video.......the speaker is ABSOLUTELY talking about shunning inactive ones. It is very pointedly talked about. It's on youtube, but I'd have to find it. We all know talks come from WT HQ Outlines, so this IS true and already being seen and felt.
  
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  To all those underage and awake…

  by Londo111 in

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  i salute you.. when i was in, i was a brainwashed idiot.

  it instilled an arrogance and made me part of a community that contributed to your suffering.. i remember when i would see a jw parent drag their teens to the meeting.

  some of these parents had converted recently, some had been some years.

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  I feel ya. I'm 37. I was never baptized, but myself and so many of my JW peers are looooong gone. I'd say 95% of the kids my age left, DA'd, DF'd, or moved and faded, never to be heard from again. All of the old timers (including my parents) have passed away. What is left of this religion? Not much, not much at all. I'm old enough to remember all of the scare mongering of the 1980's Generation/1914 nonsense, which eventually built up into "this System won't last past the year 2000." The year 2000 was 16, almost 17 years ago. Crazy! I have a son who is now 12. He has NEVER set foot into a Kingdom Hall - EVER - and probably (hopefully) never will. What for? A lifetime of servitude, poverty, ignorance, & misery? "Best life ever!" - my azz!

  The internet has become a total game-changer for people in cults. The "truth" is only a mouse click away!
  
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  Got my JC cancelled... (at least for now)

  by Sanchy in

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  so my wife and i have been in the process of fading for a few months now as per my original post here.

  about a week ago, i was browsing some ex-jw facebook groups when i saw a post that linked to the crisis of conscience book.

  i said "f@(k it" and hit share on it.. a few hours later, i get a long text letter from my mom (who was a fb friend of mine) telling me the typical "good luck finding friends in the world" and how we have "nothing in common anymore"; basically, it was a 'farewell' text.

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  I would have called that Elder back and asked him what he's talking about? Then, when he claims you shared a link to CoC on your Facebook account, I would have acted totally SHOCKED!!! Shocked I tells ya! I would have feigned complete ignorance, and said that my iPod had been stolen somewhere, and that an apostate had hacked my Facebook account and created that post. How would the Elder's prove otherwise? They couldn't. I'd lie my ass off, then lie some more, and the top it off with a sprinkle of more lies. "Theocratic Warfare" at it's best. They'd never get me, and I'd NEVER do anything on social media that could nail me down, and I was never even baptized, nor do I have any living JW relatives!
  
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  Experience You'll Never Hear at The Conventions: I write Porn Part Time and Pioneer!

  by MTSman in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i’m a pioneer in city of brotherly love.

  (yeah i said my city.

  don’t give a fuck) most pioneers who need extra money, get a part gig working as a security guard, barista, or making sandwiches for a few bucks an hour.

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  I see a Convention part in your future............PORN convention that is!