So as usual, a person's literal salvation, is tied directly to supporting "Men" in authority at an earthly organization. What a bunch of charlatans!
WingCommander
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WHAT IS THE MARK AT EZEKIEL 9:5,6?
by blondie inwhat has it been in the past?.
in fact the wts says that baptism as a jw is the mark mentioned at ezekiel 9:4-6. that people who are not will die forever at armageddon.. quote.
***knowledge book chap.
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need input: My older son has an interesting theory as to why my wife has her head in a watchtower 90% of the time
by goingthruthemotions ini am still having issues with my still in wife.
my two son's and i don't want anything to do with the cult.
our marriage is a battle ground all the time.
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WingCommander
If your sons are old enough to know the cult is crap, and are on your side, why continue to live like this? Get a DIVORCE!!! You can then be free, and she can marry her cult that she obviously loves more than her family.
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Do you remember 1975? I remember 1984.
by The Rebel inif i mention "1984" you will probably think of george orwell and his book " 1984".however i think of "1984" as a year in my life when watford football club reached the f.a cup final.
( the f.a cup is the biggest footballing occasion in english sport, and my club " little watford" were in it) but instead of going to watch the game, i was forced by my dad to miss attending the match and prioritize on theocratic w.t study.. so for me the year 1984 was the year i should have woken up to " the truth about the truth" sadly it took another 30 years of generation and doctrinal change before this boy became " awake" and understood his defining moment and realized he was fooled by the w.t.. anyway 1984 was a long time ago, but today in 2016, i realized 1984 had a " modern day 2016 application" that happened last saturday, when i took my boy to watch my " little " watford play "mighty "manchester united" and we won 3.1. now it's wednesday and my boy and i are still on cloud 9, even orlandos school teacher started monday lessons by saying " well done watford ".
yes little watford outplayed and beat the mighty united.
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Those 1984 Watchtower and Awake! magazine covers are pure gold!!! 1914: A focal point of prophecy? The Generation of 1914, and others that year are just amazing. I have the bound volumes from back then as proof of their claims, etc. I was 5 in 1984, and I still remember the urgency and near paranoia they stirred up in the congregation I was in. They were actually used as "proofs" in the door-to-door ministry!!!!! Actual PROOF, that we were in the time of the End, imminent proof! Therefore, I have to agree with you. 1984's literature is about as hard hitting as the 1975 fiasco, because of what they so boldly put into print and pushed as "proof." Today, it's all "old light" and it's like no one even remembers. I think that's mainly because 1.) so many from then are dead (like my parents) and 2.) So many of the JW's today weren't even born then, so are completely unaware. It's crazy.
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Circuit ASSembly low-lites
by FedUpJW inso in an effort to relieve some pressure here are what i term the low-lites of yesterday's assembly that i had to endure for the sake of family still in and my progressing fade.
apologies in advance for being pretty long winded.. these may not all be the actual words used, but the ones i use are close, and they pretty well say what was said from the platform.. right off the bat in the opening prayer the praises of the governing body were spoken.
thanking the g.b.
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The GB doesn't want the rank-n-file JW's watching the news, because of all the pedo reports, lawsuits, and cases being reported on. There, cleared that right up for all of you, huh? -
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Wasn't he interviewed wiggling and lying on one of the Dateline NBC stories about the Pedo's in the Org?
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Coming Out To My JW Sister
by Ame SF innow, i have been mentally "awake" for quite a while, but i'll just say march/april this year.
i won't go into detail about what it was that made me "realize" everything, so don't bother asking.. so, i've known for years that i wasn't like most girls in my classes, kingdom hall, and just in general.
from a very young age i had that obvious interest in the same sex, but seeing as i was seemingly the only one feeling that way i would brush it off and eventually i started getting interested in guys.
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WingCommander
Maybe she herself is Gay, and hiding it from everyone as well? Maybe that's her rush to get out of the house? Just thinking out loud.
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Lots of weirdos among the jw's
by wannaexit ini found this little jem this morning .
it's a little dated but describes the self-proclaimed jesus of nazareth by the name of a.j miller.
he was raised in the jw religion and was also an elder and pioneer.
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#9 is more than sick, it's borderline CRIMINAL. That is completely inappropriate, and you just know she wants her nipples aroused by the suckling. That is disgusting! What rock do these pervs crawl out from under??
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See the new Dutch assembly hall
by Anders Andersen in...it looks like a generic, easy to sell barn hall.. https://youtu.be/eqwrfhbbqwy.
nothing like the old hall it's built next to.. the small room in the video is the indoctrination education center.. the building is completed one year ahead of schedule.
my guess: it's either much simpler than they originally planned, and/or they had more volunteers because nothing else is being built.. video is dutch, but nothing interesting is said anyway..
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WingCommander
The acoustics in such a building must be atrocious. These people truly do lack brains. I know, I suffered thru DC's at the old Veteran's Stadium in Philadelphia in the 1980's. If you sat near the top, you heard nothing but "echo" while you slowly roasted and burnt to a crisp in the hot summer sun.
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Family contact in terminal illness cases.
by Disassociated Lady 2 ini had not seen my parents for over 15 years since the funeral of my brother and even then no one spoke to me as i was da.
my dad was diagnosed with terminal cancer in 2014 and i was then permitted contact with them.
i now know the reason that this is allowed.
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WingCommander
Similar story here. My father become ill with terminal cancer. My mother was an RN and worked full-time. She asked for some help. She was told that "Jehovah provides", and that she should try being more regular in the field ministry, pray more, and attend all the meetings. All this, while tending to my terminally ill father at home. Chemo, radiation, Dr's appts, etc. No offers of help, ZERO. Meanwhile, at a meeting my mother happened to make during this time period, an announcement was made from the platform, that meals would be appreciated for the wife of the PO, who had to have triple by-pass surgery. A woman who never worked a day in her life, and had all the time in the world to make her own meals throughout the day while her husband was in the hospital. Yep! That's the JW's "Christian Love" for you. Freakin' hypocrites! No mention of helping our family, EVER. This entire experience (of JW love, during my father's illness) completely woke my JW mother of 20 years up. She stopped meeting attendance after his funeral, started asking me about what I was learning on the internet, and actually ordered Ray Franz's books to read for herself, before giving them to me!
JW's: Shooting themselves in the foot for over 130 years!
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Does it not dawn on the cart witnesses?
by jambon1 ini sat in town recently, right in the window of a nice wee pub.
within minutes i realised that i had a perfect view of a jw cart and the two ridiculously dressed jw's (they have absolutely no individuality at all.
what's more, they all look like they're going to a funeral).
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My take?
1.) They get in their hours.
2.) If the occasional lonely old senile senior citizen or mentally incompetent person DOES happen to show some interest, while then "Jehovah must have drawn them near."
That is what they think anyway, that Jehovah draws those near whom He chooses, so it doesn't matter how little the R&F do, or how many people pass by, it's all on Jehovah. Which begs the question: With Jehovah being able to read hearts and judge, and with Him drawing those near whom He chooses, why even bother with the field ministry in the first place? Seems like a huge waste of time. Oh wait, I forgot.......It's a cult!