I think she meant that people still ask her if Ray & Cynthia considered themselves "Christians", and not still JW's. So the answer was yes, they still considered themselves Christians, saved thru Christ, and had escaped a horrible cult.
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29 Years in the Watchtower + Ray Franz's 5th Ed. of CoC.
by oppostate indeborah dykstra's "29 years in the watchtower".
and experience about ray franz's 5th ed.
of coc.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqa_meqo9qm.
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Why Do People Hate Jews???
by minimus ini have never understood anti-semitism .why sooo much hatred?.
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I think there is a high correlation between antisemitism in American and the increasingly Muslim influx into the country which promotes hate against the Jews and all other Infidels via Islamic Jihad.
Hey, it worked in Sweden, where something like 90%+ of the Jews who had originally populated Sweden after WWII and built Synagogues, left them and moved to Israel over the past 10-20 years due to the huge influx of Muslim immigrants into the country. I'm betting the Jews took their wealth with them? How's Sweden's open-doors immigration policy working out for them again? Hmmmmmm? Now, we are looking at the same wave and MORE coming from not just overseas, but south of the border as well.
KKK, Aryian Brotherhood, etc are NOTHING compared to MS-13 and related gang-banger THUGS in this country now.
And the media wonders why people are fed up with this shit and support Trump, erecting a wall, tighter immigration control (AKA, not just letting anyone in here to live off the free handouts while are Veterans are treated like crap!) etc. SMH.
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It baffles me why they would even say this
by Tameria2001 inback in 2001, i left the jws rather abruptly.
i had discovered things about the watchtower that really made me quite angry, angry because i had been lied to, and it took me just to darn long to figure it out.
before i had left, my husband and i wrote 3 letters, one to the elders at our congregation, and two to our parents.
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What your JW mothers are suffering from is what is commonly known as:
"Head up ass syndrome."
There is no cure. If someone is that stupid as to be presented with facts and proof, and yet STILL want to live in a state of perpetual denial, well then that is their own stupidity and not yours. There is no hope for someone like that.
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Whatever happened to the KINGDOM SMILE???
by Latte inwhilst sat in my car at some temporary traffic lights recently i saw what looked like a co doing his bit of encouraging a young boy in the f.ministry , he had his hand on this young boys back (kinda distant for a dad) i smelt a co immediately!
lol.
the road was narrow, and then low and behold!
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Ah yes......the KingDUMB smile. Ignorance is bliss, aye?
Make sure you put a large SMILE on your face as the Elduh's, CO, and Governing Body bend you over, fleece you for every cent you have, any free time you have, and give it to you good.
Oh! Don't only SMILE, but be obedient, submissive, and ask for seconds!!!!
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Elder Is Dodgy Used Car Salesman
by pale.emperor injust thought i'd relate this story for any lurkers out there.. here in the north west of england there's an elder called george ashton.
the ashton's are a big family, most of the men are appointed as elders or at least min servants.
george owns a used car dealership and almost all jws in liverpool looking for a car have heard of him.
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JW's who run businesses (especially Elduhs) are to be avoided like the plague. They are some of the worst crooks around.
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Do You Know Of Anyone Who Left JWs And Then Decided To Return?
by minimus inquite a few years ago there was a poster here that left the religion because he knew it was simply not true.
however, he returned to jws because he wanted to be with his family.
i don’t know how he is doing but gumby was his name.
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I admit that for a long time, even though I was Physically Out, I was Mentally In. Even up till a few years ago (before 2010) I had thought that maybe if the WT played nice, etc that maybe someday I'd return because, "What if they are really right?" This was AFTER reading COC, ISoCF, Apocalypse Delayed, etc, etc. After a lifetime of being treated like shit and a 2nd Class Citizen even! However, once 2014 came and went, WT Broadcasting premiered, the new song book, the Silver Sword Bible (retarded!), Overlapping Generations from Splain, begging for money from Lett (May 2015 broadcast) the "Cart Song", the convention videos, the ARC, the local (Pennsylvania) abuse cases coming out and making the news, the KH sell-offs, etc.....after witnessing all THAT shit in the past few years, I've come to the concrete conclusion that the WT Org is completely full of SHIT, that they are a lying, manipulative, corrupt, self-serving, money-grubbing CULT that I will NEVER return to. I hope they crash and burn in my life time. F*ck 'em! -
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I Got Very Stange JW Doorknocker Yesterday
by pale.emperor ini had an ex-jw uncle of mine visiting me yesterday from another part of the country.
i usually only ever see him at weddings and funerals but we keep in touch on facebook.
we were catching up in my place with his wife when about an hour into the visit there's a knock on my door, this was about 4pm.. strange... the only people who ever knock without calling me first are the postman and my ex-wife.. i open the door and it's a face i recognize from my last congregation.
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Man, your experiences with these brainwashed idiots just keep getting weirder and weirder. I think at this point I'd tell them all to toss off.
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Of god and guns and SOL
by zeb inending a shopping run i went into the local gun shop to buy some rim-fire cartridges.
my wife had finished her nearby shopping and came in to me.. "can i help you?
" polite assistant who had not met her before.. "im with him" grumped the reply.. but its friday and tomorrow she goes to the kh and will no doubt be fronted about my absence.
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Ha! In America SOL means, "Shit out of luck."
If you're in Australia and own a firearm of any type, you are extremely fortunate. I've read up on all the hoops you have to go thru to even have a .22LR rimfire pistol or rifle.
I have 2 custom Ruger 10/22's, a full custom Ruger Mark III Target, and 5,000 rounds of various types of ammo. That's just my .22's!
I luv Australia, but could never live there due to their restrictions. Target shooting is one my passions.
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Rick Fearon - Six Screens of the Watchtower
by dubstepped inso a friend today asked me what his deal is and i honestly don't know.
i saw someone post about his accusations that the doj is investigating watchtower and people seemed down on the guy, as well has johnny the bethelite or whatever his name is that claims to leak stuff.
i don't know rick fearon, don't watch his show, but his site just seems a little crazy, and he seems to get into occult conspiracies and the jws, which never lends credibility.. so for those of you who have been around a while, what's the deal?
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Hey Minimus:
If you are so close to Rick and have apparently known him for decades, why in the hell don't you clue this clown in as to the damage he's actually doing? I'm serious man!! Sit his ass down and give him the reality cheque he so desperately needs! Be a real friend, and clue him in! He's needs it. Badly. ASAP.
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Family is now reaping what they sowed and they don't like it.
by Gemmel ini resigned from the jw's in my 20's over 30 years ago, i was immediately shunned by my entire family and it's remained that way with a few exceptions ever since.
one of those exceptions was being contacted by a cousin a few years back and during that conversation i discovered that my mother had been and still was the prime mover in my complete and continuing shunning.
i then used what contacts i had left to confirm it.
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3rdgen:
Your experience deserves it's own thread. That is incredible, just incredible! Especially so since your mother was apparently on a first name basis with some of the Governing Body at the time! Gave them millions of dollars over the decades, give them a LOAN, and then to be totally shafted in her old age and hour of need? F*ck these charlatans and this vile, evil CULT!!!!