this is gonna be my very first time as a ms.. i'll be on leave for about 3 weeks.. our cong.
is still up and coming, and there is a need for brothers.
right now there is only one elder, 2 ms's including me.. elder told me if i work hard enough and display my love for jehovah, then they will make me an acting secretary in no time.so i am working my a*s off to get that "position".. .
I am in no way trying to "Truthify" the validity of AGBM's claims about his ovation at the end of his talk, but I am going to say that I have seen several standing ovations after talks at both circuit and district assemblies. This DOES happen.
- Wing Commander
mine's was, if your job interfere with the meetings you have to decide who you will choose,.
serving jehovah or serving man, if anyone knew my needs it most definitely was jehovah.
and he knew i needed my job to eat.
"Wait on Jehovah" is the end all, be all answer to anything that the dufos, uneducated, untrained Elders use to get someone off their back when they don't have a useful answer.
They are utterly useless, worse then useless - they are an utter burden upon the very sheep they are supposed to be shepharding. No REAL help with anything, but God forbid you're caught out on a date with someone, then they can't move quick enough to round of a Judicial Committee to Disfellowship your sorry ass!!!
See any similarities to the Pharisees?
- Wing Commander
"1914 repaired".
no year has more profoundly been pointed to for jehovahs witnesses than 1914. it is such a pivotal part of their theological superstructure that the following quote can be found in the book benefitting from theocratic ministry school education on page 279:.
this good news of the kingdom.
Not bad SD-7. Don't forget to quote what the Reasoning Book says about 1914, and maybe even throw in the cover from the May 15th, 1984 WatchTower as well. There's no denying how they pushed 1914 and "This Generation" and as being full-proof evidence, and now all of a sudden they are changing it again.
- Wing Commander
SD-7, I think you should read closely what Dark Side wrote above. You are basically imprisoned in your own home, life, marriage.
I actually can't believe you've "endured" this long with the insanity and cruelty your JW wife has put you through. I don't know whether to commend you or slap the shit out of you for being your wife's punching bag.
At least you didn't sit through the DC. What a waste of time. Every day you prolong the inevitable is one more day lost that could have been spent looking for a good woman that would really appreciate you instead of using you.
- Wing Commander
i remember studying a watchtower article years ago about being a a theatrical spectacle to the world, i thought to myself this is so high minded and weird.
really, as though everyone is looking at jehovahs witnesses and how they conduct themselves, give me a break; most people are just trying to survive from day to day.
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Truly, they are legends in the own MINDS.
mine's was, if your job interfere with the meetings you have to decide who you will choose,.
serving jehovah or serving man, if anyone knew my needs it most definitely was jehovah.
and he knew i needed my job to eat.
Reading all of these replies made me immediately think of something in the Bible where Jesus spoke of the bad shephards that would come after Him, ravenous wolves in sheep's clothing, burdening and beating down the flock.
Why would Jesus want to complicate and make your life even harder? Did not He and YHWH God give you talents, abilities, and intelect so that you could aspire to be more then a window washer? Jesus said "My yoke is kindly and my load is light," yet the Elders would have you pulling a cart like a mule if they could, and basically you are if you allow yourself to be kept stupid and uneducated, and working 50 hours a week + meetings + field service. What a colossal crook of shit!!!
The advice you've all recieved I've heard told to myself, my parents, or others in the congregation.
You gotta love how the rich business owner Elders will stand up at the podium and condemn education, big houses, nice cars, and education when they have some or all of the previously mentioned. Elder in my current congregation, owns a pole building business. Built it up himself, no problem there. Total little smart-ass, and carries an actual WAD of cash around. Sold his nice size home after he built a brand-new gigantic mansion home next to a cemetary. (yeah, creeepy I know). Guess he's ready to house and preach to the resurrected ones in the New Order, huh???? My wife, a non-JW is disgusted at his fake sincerity and showy display of his means - and she's not even a JW!!! My, what a fine witness HE is???
- Wing Commander
i watched an interesting programme last night on the amish religion.
i remember watching the film "witness" many years ago with harrison ford so i already had an insight into what sort of people they were.. they seem a peaceful, family/community orientated group who stick to the teachings in the bible like glue.
when jesus spoke about 'being separate from the world' surely no-one could have followed this more than the amish.
TO: Out at Last! ^^^^^
Yes, I've heard of exactly what you describe. They treat their "work" horses very shabily, but the horses that draw their buggys eat good? How's that for weird? All appearances. Don't get me started on their puppy mills around here, BRUTAL!!!
Education? What's that? As long as they know enough math in order to count their MONEY, they are satisfied. Auck, we don't needs no more edumakation den dat!!!
Yeah, what people see on TV is truly scratching the surface, kind of like seeing a little JW boy dressed up out in service and going, "ohhh, isn't he cute????" When is reality it's sick, Sick, SICK!!!!
- Wing Commander
bane is an apostate!
(all of the things that i am posting below are things that bane has stated on other threads on this website).
bane said:.
Really? And all this time I just thought he was a DOUCHEBAG!!!!
someone told me this the other day.. does anyone know if it is true that to hold charity 'status' that you cannot discriminate against colour, creed, sexual preference, disability etc etc?.
surely the wtbts go against these 'rules' by disfellowshipping homosexuals or discriminating against the mentally ill?.
just a thought..
Whenever I hear, see, or read about the JW's claiming to be a "Charity" I immediately laugh my ass off. I did even when I was growing up a JW.
Why?
Because they offer NOTHING of charity, that's why. About 2 years ago I asked a JW lady at my door who made this claim exactly where were the soup kitchens, clothing stores, homeless shelters, food depositories, schools, and nursing homes that the JW's built? She got the famous "deer in the headlights look" and you could literally see the wheels turning, like I slapped her across the head. I flat out said, "Jesus commanded Christians to look after widows and orphans, so how exactly does a publishing company do that? Where are your charities and orphanages? I'll bet there are NONE." It stopped her dead in her tracks....she was gobbsmacked, she had never thought about this before.
The only hand-out they are familar with is the one that the members send to Headquarters every month so they can continue to live free high off the hog while everyone else struggles in "the World." Meanwhile, they continue to beat down the flock and demand more money, more time, and don't you dare get more education, fools!!!!
Charity my ass.
- Wing Commander
i watched an interesting programme last night on the amish religion.
i remember watching the film "witness" many years ago with harrison ford so i already had an insight into what sort of people they were.. they seem a peaceful, family/community orientated group who stick to the teachings in the bible like glue.
when jesus spoke about 'being separate from the world' surely no-one could have followed this more than the amish.
I think it's time to give everyone a little wake-up call on the "Amish" lifestyle. I live in work in an Amish Paradise - Lancaster County, PA. I work for a contractor and design alot of dining establishments, markets, stores, etc that the Amish own. The days of the Amish living like in the movie "Witness" are LONG gone. That way of life died over 10 years ago, and it'll never come back. They are much more modernized than most of you could believe.
Let me tell you all something, that goody-goody facade that they put on it is just that - a FACADE, a lie, just like the JW ubber-nice guy in a business suit smiling at you at the door.
Allow me to explain. The Elders of the congregations live like freakin KINGS, with lavish homes that would make your mouth drop in awe. Imagine walking into a large Amish Elder's house who has many, many children, and seeing a few small ones watching a movie on a portable DVD player? How about having an Elder pull a cell phone out of his pocket and show you a picture of the deer he bagged during hunting season? I can, because I've experienced this and MORE. Did you know they now own CARS and VANS, and pay people to drive them around? I've even seen Amish Elders with FULL electric in their homes, not just a phone shack out in the barn. They live like Kings, while they forbid such luxuries from their flocks. Sound familiar?? The hypocrisy and legalistic OverLording is incredible, but all the "World" sees is the women in simple clothing and the little kids with their hats. Most of the Amish are now getting together to create huge Amish Markets, and money is no object in designing these places, only the best for them. They now have bank accounts, accept credit cards, etc. Of course, most cash transactions are kept from the IRS, most of that is kept for themselves under the table.
They are also incredibly cheap b*sturds. They expect you to sell them equipment at cost and sometimes gawk at prices. They come back once they figure out you're in line or cheaper then your competition. Also, because they consider themselves to be "no part of this world" they try and circumvent all state and local building codes whenever they can. They just don't give a crap, period. They want it big, lavish, and CHEAP, and they want it NOW. They don't care about permit drawings and fire protection on hoods above gas griddles. It's Greek to them.
I once saw a female building/health inspector walk onto a large, new Amish Market. This was last year. Stuff wasn't being installed by the Amish workers according to the plans she had in her hand, and she saw several other violations. At first, she tried talking to these guys and letting them know what was wrong. Of course, the typical Amish male is a backwards chouvanist pig, and thinks women are beneath them and to not be heard. Well, she made herself heard when she shut down the entire work site until all the problems were corrected. The Amish learned damned quick to respect her the next time she walked on site to re-evaluate!!!
I could go on and on. Hell, I didn't even touch on the aspect of the SHUNNING they practice, which is every bit as harsh and un-Christian as what the JW's practice.
The Amish aren't some cute little sect, they are a full blown CULT, harmful, backwards, and half evil if you ever had to deal with the Elders especially. Freakin modern day Pharisees. If JW's ever went "plain" they'd fit right in around here. Matter of fact, I can imagine the JW's Paradise Earth being an exact duplicate of how the Amish live today. Rank and file work their azzes off, while the Elder's run their big businesses and live like OverLords out over everyone else. No thanks!!!!
- Wing Commander
