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VA shooting suspect was raised a JW! He mentions it on his Twitter account

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anyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.

bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.

i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.

WingCommander

Geezus! Is this thread still going? C'mon guys.....no need to argue the semantics of where all the world's legal or illegal firearms come from. It's been noted and documented that the shooter (original subject of this thread) obtained his GLOCK 19 legally. No denying it.

I actually think the more productive discussion was the one dealing with the semantics of what some of us consider "mentally ill", responsibly mental illness, how mental illness does or doesn't cause paranoid racism, and also the effects of the JW upbringing which this man clearly had and the effect it had on his psyche. (it did, no denying it.)

Enough about pros/cons of America and it's love of the ultimate phallic symbol: Donald Trump's toupee. lol

I am kind of surprised that after 13 years, THIS is the thread that has gotten me the most responses. Interesting.

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People Magazine: Who Was Vester Lee Flanagan, the Man Who Allegedly Shot 3 People on Live TV?

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http://www.people.com/article/vester-lee-flanagan-bryce-willams-the-man-who-allegedly-shot-3-people-live-tv.

people magazine: who was vester lee flanagan, the man who allegedly shot 3 people on live tv?.

born in 1973 in oakland, california, to vester and betty flanagan, he was raised as a strict jehovah's witness.

WingCommander

How much money do you want to bet that the "childhood friend", Shaun Barton, who was mentioned in the article, is a full-fledged JW from the Congregation of the shooter's youth? How can you guess this? By his choice of wording. How many "worldly" people use the term, "get-togethers"? This is JW terminology. "Worldly" people use the terms, "picnic, family reunions, BBQ's, and parties", not "get-togethers".

Of course Shaun's going to paint a rosy JW picture of bliss, he's an indoctrinated JW zombie! Wonder what the worldly relatives of this shooter's family have to say about the JW cult members? Probably NOT good things. You'd probably get the real "truth" from them. How the shooter was a closeted homosexual, even in his youth, and fought against those feelings his entire life.

This guy was WHACK, and after 41 years he snapped. Too bad he took innocent people down with him. Sad all around.

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VA shooting suspect was raised a JW! He mentions it on his Twitter account

by WingCommander in

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friends

anyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.

bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.

i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.

WingCommander

Nah, he wasn't mentally ill. Jehovah spoke to him, just like he speaks to the Governing Body.

He was as sane as a Judge.

***FACE PALM***

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VA shooting suspect was raised a JW! He mentions it on his Twitter account

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

anyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.

bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.

i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.

WingCommander

Ok, away from the "gun aspect" of this story, and back to part of the matter. Here is a tidbit I just discovered on a news site describing some of the murderers problems from his personnel file:

"Dennison said Flanagan reported straight from a press release "instead of doing some original reporting," documents said.

Flanagan also filed "gratuitous coverage and promotion" of a church instead of using "critical thinking and questioning skills to produce truly memorable television stories," Dennison's memo said."

Wow!!!! I wonder which "Church" Flanagan was gratuitously promoting? Can you believe they actually wrote that he lacked "critical thinking skills"? CULT ALERT! CULT ALERT! There is no doubt in my mind being raised a JW definitely contributed to his psychosis.

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VA shooting suspect was raised a JW! He mentions it on his Twitter account

by WingCommander in

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anyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.

bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.

i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.

WingCommander

Felons can't get guns. Period.

I will say this, I am NOT against ALL gun control. I also believe people don't need fully automatic weapons or silencers. Semi-auto is fine by me. I only have (1) bolt action rifle with 6-round magazine. However, it's the most dangerous in my hands. Why? Because I can hit a 2" circle at 600 meters with it. No need for full or semi auto. It's not even classified as an "assault rifle." It's technically a biathlon rifle made in Sweden. Tikka T3 Sporter.

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VA shooting suspect was raised a JW! He mentions it on his Twitter account

by WingCommander in

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anyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.

bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.

i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.

WingCommander

I never said Air Marshalls were on ALL flights. What I said, was that they were on a good number of "high-risk" flights. I'm thinking terrorists know that between armed Air Marshalls, and the fact that US Citizens aren't going to just roll over and play dead anymore, that they are a bit deterred?

As for the post above about internet gun sales in America. So what? I've bought many a firearm thru such sites. Guess what? In each case, I've had to meet the seller at a licensed Gun Shop, fill out ALL the required federal and state paperwork, go thru an immediate insta-check, before I could walk out with said firearm. Do you even know what you are talking about? The people who sell their firearms without going thru the proper procedures, are in fact - BREAKING THE LAW! I myself have put "For Sale" ads on such sites. It is not illegal to sell your firearm. It is illegal to sell it privately without going thru a BATF FFL licensed dealer in order to do so. This is how BATF track ALL weapons. People breaking our laws is what is causing a lot of this mess to begin with!!!!!! Criminals do things criminally!! Felons don't purchase weapons honestly. Think criminals in Ireland or Australia don't have firearms? It's this ignorance and ignoring of the laws that we DO have in place that is causing it to be bad for the majority of the law-abiding citizens in the USA to continue to have firearms.

Enough with this crap! A homicidal nutcase bent on killing purchased the GLOCK 19 legally. It's a fact. He was not a felon. He had no warrants out for his arrest. He had not been dishonourably discharged from the military. He had no record of drugs. He was not on medication, nor had he been involuntarily committed to a mental institution, not even "voluntarily." Hence, he was able to pass as "sane enough" purchase a firearm and pass background checks. What he did with the GLOCK is ON HIM. GLOCK didn't make him a homicidal maniac anymore than Jehovah did. In fact, I'd argue that religion has killed many more people many more times over in history than any of the wars that have ever been fought with "guns." Religion thought up by bronze age nomadic sheep herders and written in scrolls, has killed more people than GLOCK's ever will. All in the name of "God told us to do it, so we're right."

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VA shooting suspect was raised a JW! He mentions it on his Twitter account

by WingCommander in

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friends

anyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.

bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.

i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.

WingCommander

I'm actually shocked that the charts above with real actual statistics is still showing up. If we delete them, does that mean they don't really exist, ala 1984? lol

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VA shooting suspect was raised a JW! He mentions it on his Twitter account

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

anyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.

bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.

i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.

WingCommander

Uh oh.......FACTS just showed up. I think I hear the crickets warming up.............

But I digress. The man who did the killing of innocent people, had a history of paranoid, delusional behavior. By his own admission he claimed Jehovah God told him to take care of these people because of the impending race war, and also because everyone was out to get him because he was such apparently the best gay male paid companion that money could buy! (from his Twitter account postings)

Crazy. His method of execution is irrelevant, only his outcome. I'm d*mn sorry this thread spiraled out of control to be nothing more than a shout-down of American rights as seen by foreigners who don't even live here and don't appreciate rights they themselves aren't "allowed" to possess.

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VA shooting suspect was raised a JW! He mentions it on his Twitter account

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

anyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.

bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.

i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.

WingCommander

This thread is way off-topic, no matter where your stance on American gun laws.

It has come out that the man who did this shooting, clearly was paranoid, delusional, and very angry. He himself made the statement that "Jehovah told me to do these things", etc.

He made a lot of racist statements too.....but I honestly don't feel he was a racist because he hated white people, I think his underlying psychological disorders turned him that way. Also, the JW Cult upbringing of, "us vs. them" mentality really feeds into paranoid, delusional behavior.

The weapon he choose is of secondary concern. As stated before, he could have run them down with a truck, beat them with a baseball bat or club, etc. His underlying mental issues are the culprit of this behavior, and the fact that he didn't get help for said problems because he didn't feel he had them. (he did!!)

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VA shooting suspect was raised a JW! He mentions it on his Twitter account

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

anyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.

bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.

i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.

WingCommander

Hey Simon, who was it again who stood up to an armed terrorist with an AK-47 shooting people on a train in France in the past week? Was it French citizens? Where were the Mounties???? I do believe it was (3) American Military servicemen on leave.

Don't tell me that kind of crap (terrorist on train, etc) won't happen in the USA and Canada, because it is coming. You are living in a bubble if you don't think it's coming. We've had our Pearl Harbor. We've had our 9/11.

For the record, I do NOT support Trump. I also do NOT support the Patriot Act, or the taking of anyone by force to GITMO style prisons to be waterboarded. Instead, terrorists or those aiding terrorists, should be tried, convicted, and then promptly taken out back for execution by firing squad. They want to be Martyrs so bad? No problem.