John A, is truly a trip. By his account, he's met HUNDREDS of Apostates in his adventures, meetings, and travels. He's openly spoken to Elders about JW doctrine, helped active JW's leave, and much, much more! All the while, somehow never being asked to attend a Judicial Committee? I'll let you decide how bonafide his fairy tales are.
WingCommander
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Are you A comments/like junkie?
by olongapo joe ini admit that i am, i started a thread on my youthful drinking, that went absolutely nowhere.
so here i am looking for some love.
i have spent hours on this site reading others experiences (real or imagined), i question some of john aguilars( i did not comment on johns post, just mentally thought it sounded a little far fetched) and notice when others question how he is always in the right place at the right time, he seems to stop commenting.
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My meeting yesterday
by stephanie61092 inso i just wanted to jot down some thoughts and feelings about my meeting yesterday.... first, the wt, paragraph 16. i couldn't help but laugh to myself at the blatant hypocrisy.
god’s word admonishes us “to live with soundness of mind ... amid this present system of things.” (titus 2:12) having “soundness of mind,” or being sober-minded, should certainly come into play when the explanation of a diagnostic method or therapy seems strange or mysterious.
can the practitioner or the one promoting it explain satisfactorily how it works?
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Not to come to the defense of the WT writers, but I'm pretty sure from what they wrote up there that they are talking about a lot of Asian medical practices, and also of the more modern New Age religious movements such as Reiki.
I don't think for an instant that the WT writers were talking about western "modern" medicine. I live in Pennsylvania, USA. Although lately, you'd think I was somewhere in Southern California. There is a lot of this New Age crap moving in to the area, a lot of Reiki, which some have described as highly controlling and a BS scam as well. If it's here, I'm fairly certain its in wealthy region like Warwick, NY. So honestly, I feel this is what WT writers were pinpointing.
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Damn it feels good to be free and on my own without the pressure to do more as a JW slave
by No Longer a JW Brother ini don't know where to begin but damn it feels so good to be free of mind control.
i'm only officially out since this past december but i was out mentally for two hot years under the close watch of my batshit crazy psycho parents who bothered me every sunday to see what i thought about the meeting.
it was necessary for me to lie through my teeth.
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Brother, from another mother? You fuggin' rock for going out like you did! Buying that pre-paid CELL and sending out those texts with video links was brilliant, freakin' brilliant! "Theocratic warfare" at it's very best.
I'm with you, see? We're the same, you and me, see? (Bonus points if you get what movie scene that line is from)
Fug those cult bastards!
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Do todays Jw's care at all about Russell and the pyramid?
by olongapo joe injust wondering, as i will be visiting active jw family in ohio in a few weeks, do you think it will be worthwhile dropping it into a conversation, about the wtbts pyramid near his grave, or try some other topic to try and wake them up.
i was never baptized and don't really care if they get upset or not, but it is only a day trip from ohio to pittsburgh, and thought it would be fun if they denied it, and then drove their to see it for ourselves.
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What, you mean this 'ol thang?
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Narcissistic personality disorder and the dubs
by purrpurr ini've recently started to research npd.
having identified several of my family members as having it ( no wonder we're such a ¿***#@**!!!!
up family)there's huge similarities between the borg and individual members of the cong as well i've noticed.the over whelming love of self, the need to believe in a grandiose fictional version of themselves, always striving for more power and wealth, being unable to stand any criticism, and then there's the manipulation of the victims too.i could be wrong i guess but what thoughts do you guys have about it?
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I am leaving the JW's . I am alone and scared. Advice and help needed please
by scared and lonely ini am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.
i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.
i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.
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If this guy is legit, I'd honestly like to know what sent someone as reclusive and sheltered as him into "wake-up mode." Seriously!! Here he was an Elder, living in his parents basement, probably looking for Mrs. Future Elderette.
What happened S&L? JW Broadcasting? UK WTHQ not being built fast enough? Multiple child sexual abuse cases against JW Elders hitting multiple news outlets in the UK? Total lack of love and/or constant feeling of "never being good enough?" Personal bible research? Stumbling (snicker) upon the UN NGO association and immediate 180 of said association? 2014 (100 years since 1914) come and went, and you finally wake up? Seeing pictures of the luxurious new WT HQ in Warwick?
Really curious. Come out, come out, wherever you are? (sexually frustrated closeted homosexual, perhaps?) Honestly, some people mistake my sarcasm for being an asshole. That's not the case. I just lack tact. Poor impulse control.
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I am leaving the JW's . I am alone and scared. Advice and help needed please
by scared and lonely ini am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.
i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.
i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.
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I'm not asking for S&L's personal info. Nor do I need any confirmation of his age, "status" in or out of the Cult, etc.
I'll answer his question though. I was born into this mess, to parents (and grandmother) who were exposed to WT literature throughout their lives, and decided to convert when they were young adults, not long after 1975. They got dunked in 1983 as I recall. They didn't have the internet or research materials as we do. They didn't have JW Broadcasting either.
They (and I) were sold a faux bill of goods. They're all dead. I'm left to pick up the pieces of this mess. My son has never (and never will) set foot into a KingDumb Hell. The more that comes out of this religion (that I no longer even recognize, it's disgusting!) the more angry I become. I wouldn't punch a street peddler; no. But if I got off the Amtrak in NYC and saw Lett or TOMOIII walking towards me, I'd lay them out on their holier-than-thou asses with one punch to the face and kick to the balls! And if I EVER happen upon Fred Franz's (the Oracle) grave, I will most definitely relieve myself upon it for all the rotten spiritual "food" that nutcase unleashed upon the world.
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I am leaving the JW's . I am alone and scared. Advice and help needed please
by scared and lonely ini am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.
i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.
i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.
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You come on here as an ex-Elder, and expect sympathy from the very people you've spiritually abused for god only knows how many years? Good luck with that sh*t!
Honestly, that whole whiny, begging for money on the first page is what instantly put me off about you. We've got Stephen Lett and the GB putting up videos on JW Broadcasting begging for more of our relatives and friends money, fleecing them of their hard-earned (because of being denied an education from these same bastards!), savings, any retirement or inheritance, etc.......and now YOU want some too????
I can tell you flat out that not only are people on here sick of having JW's lurch around like moochers, but so are many JW's still in. Damn tired of being told to support local do-gooders who only want to Pioneer and live off the working class JW's all the while looking down their noses at them. Tired of rubber-faced clowns like Lett and crew getting up on JW Broadcasting wearing Rolex's and gold pinky rings in Brooks Brothers suits, trying to guilt and shake everyone down, meanwhile they are making BILLIONS off of clever real estate and hedge fund maneuvering. And for damn sure tired of people looking for the free hand out. Listen up pal, everyone on here has already been used up by the JW cult. We call it as we see it, use critical thinking skills, question everything and everyone, and aren't going to up and "OBEY" like you are used to everyone doing.
Life's a b*tch, and just think, you probably have a Judicial Committee to look forward to yet. Come talk to us after that. Better yet, record it and let us hear you tell your local band of window washers were to shove their imaginary "authority". Then, you'll have earned some respect.
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Narcissistic personality disorder and the dubs
by purrpurr ini've recently started to research npd.
having identified several of my family members as having it ( no wonder we're such a ¿***#@**!!!!
up family)there's huge similarities between the borg and individual members of the cong as well i've noticed.the over whelming love of self, the need to believe in a grandiose fictional version of themselves, always striving for more power and wealth, being unable to stand any criticism, and then there's the manipulation of the victims too.i could be wrong i guess but what thoughts do you guys have about it?
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My sister-in-law is a totally manipulatively, self-centered narcissist and borderline psychopath. She has ZERO empathy for anyone except herself and her "darling" daughters, who are every bit as spiteful, two-faced, vindictive, and narcissistic as she is; worse even. What's worse, is that she's totally fooled my wife's parents into believing she's so wonderful and that my wife is white trash. And of course like the gullible fools they are, they lap that right up and continue to enable the narcissist and her family. We're done. After being harassed, slandered, and made an ass out of on social media by these hateful clowns, we told them all to go f*ck themselves and never set foot on our property again unless they desire an ass-whooping. These people are Advent Lutherans, and they are certifiably insane! My S-I-L actually has people believing that the Holy Spirit came over her on her way to work in rush hour traffic one day and "healed" her of a somewhat serious illness she had. Delusions of grandeur, much? More like "whacked in the head." Best thing I ever did was get away from these horrible people.....took me YEARS to get over their mutherfuggery, but I tell you the truth - best thing I ever did was get the hell away from their hateful bullsh*t.
Best thing to do with toxic individuals (or family) is to remove them from your life like the cancer they are.
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I am leaving the JW's . I am alone and scared. Advice and help needed please
by scared and lonely ini am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.
i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.
i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.
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I'm totally with Nathan Natas and Sparrow on this one: I'm floored that such a man-child as this was actually an appointed ELDER, out over other grown adults!
This is a fine example of what cult indoctrination and upbringing produces: A 28-yr old virgin who still lives in his parents basement and does janitorial work. Scrub toilets as a nobody by day, then at night throw on a cheap JC Penny suit and go Lord it over others as a some spiritual "Prince." Classic, just classic!
Why don't you go beg your WT Governing Body to help you out? After all, "Jehovah provides", as I'm sure you've told others as an Elder, right? They are your loving spiritual "family", so go forth, be warm and well fed and remember, even Jesus and the Apostle Paul didn't have a pillow to rest their heads!
