Posts by WingCommander

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The JW's are suing Mark O'Donnell in civil court for millions.So protect the pedos, and suit the whistelblowers? Shame on this cult!

by WingCommander in

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link to his announcement on www.jwchildabuse.org:.

https://www.jwchildabuse.org/news/jehovahs-witnesses-sue-editor-of-jw-child-abuse-website-for-millions/.

if anyone needed any further proof of how low and despicable this cult has become, here's more evidence.

WingCommander

WatchTower are scumbags for doing this, just like Scientology. Think this won't get out and around in JW circles? That WT is suiting a Whistleblower who's done nothing but expose their CSA problem?

I hope Mark or others can get some real large media attention drawn to this. Like Spotlight did up in Boston when dealing with the Catholic Church. It could really help Mark, and totally backfire on the Org.

Instead of bunkering down, Mark needs to ramp up and start hitting up every media contact he has at Atlantic, the Philadelphia Inquirer, The Guardian, NY Times, NY Post, Washington Post, Sydney Morning Herald, you name it. Really put the spotlight on how low WatchTower is.

This shit is so unreal to me. Hell, I went weak in the knees when I first heard Martin Haugh's account of how WT HQ directed them to toss out not just old light literature, but also how they directed his Elder's to buy a large shredder and start destroying evidence dealing with cases that JC's had handled thru the years. (Sarah Brooks case, etc, etc in those PA congregations) This is some wicked, evil, shit! As if you needed even MORE evidence of this being a man-made CULT with ZERO Holy Spirit involved, I give you - All of THIS shit! SMFH. How do these clowns sleep at night? Oh that's right, I forgot. Behind an entire slimy legal dept on a lakeshore compound bought and paid for by the donations of others.

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The JW's are suing Mark O'Donnell in civil court for millions.So protect the pedos, and suit the whistelblowers? Shame on this cult!

by WingCommander in

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friends

link to his announcement on www.jwchildabuse.org:.

https://www.jwchildabuse.org/news/jehovahs-witnesses-sue-editor-of-jw-child-abuse-website-for-millions/.

if anyone needed any further proof of how low and despicable this cult has become, here's more evidence.

WingCommander

@slimboyfat:

Apparently, it was a confidential Elduhzzz only meeting between local Congregation Elders and their lawyers on a Zoom call. Someone (some Elder or MS probably) who is really "out" was able to share the link and password with Mark and he was able to listen in and record, etc. He then made a summary Youtube video exposing what they were up to. After the suit was filed, he removed the YouTube video.

WatchTower can't win this one. Firstly, because Mark is an established journalist at this point working with publications and social media around the globe. He has 1st Amendment and journalistic protection and WatchTower knows it. That isn't the point to WatchTower. They want to ruin him by draining all his money fighting the suit. Win, while losing, by attrition.

Here's what's really jaw-dropping; they are suiting him for "loss of income." As-in, because of what he exposed in his Youtube segment, they are claiming he cost them money. Just like any other "Corporation." They are also demanding he hand over all ex-JW contacts that he's spoken to going back several years. You know, so they can proceed to disfellowship any still-in moles or one sympathetic to the CSA cause. Round up the leaks and plug them.

WatchTower can go fugg themselves. They will NEVER get that from Mark. A journalist 100% can not be forced to name their sources. Also, I suspect he may also have Whistleblower protection. WT is barking the wrong tree on this one, and I wonder what else they're attempting to hide. Possibly all the evidence of them demanding that interrogation notes of CSA victims from the Judicial Committee Meetings be shredded, as they did in the Sarah Brooks case? (as reported all over by ex-JW Elder Martin Haugh) I didn't read which 11 Pennsylvania Congregations it is, but I suspect they're mostly in the south-central PA region, which is absolutely overflowing at the brim with child sexual abuse cases. What's been reported since 2016 is merely the tip of the iceberg.

Hey WT HQ: You still letting that anointed pedophile (former Elder) who molested his children remain in good standing in the Mount Joy Congregation? He still able to give Assembly parts and no one is the wiser? Guess Legal Dept is too busy silencing the abused and whisteblowers to go after that sick twisted freak, huh?

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The JW's are suing Mark O'Donnell in civil court for millions.So protect the pedos, and suit the whistelblowers? Shame on this cult!

by WingCommander in

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friends

link to his announcement on www.jwchildabuse.org:.

https://www.jwchildabuse.org/news/jehovahs-witnesses-sue-editor-of-jw-child-abuse-website-for-millions/.

if anyone needed any further proof of how low and despicable this cult has become, here's more evidence.

WingCommander

Link to his announcement on www.jwchildabuse.org:

https://www.jwchildabuse.org/news/jehovahs-witnesses-sue-editor-of-jw-child-abuse-website-for-millions/

If anyone needed any further proof of how low and despicable this cult has become, here's more evidence.

So let me get this straight; you have a religion that's been caught with it's pants down all over the world covering up child sexual abuse, protecting pedophiles, victim-shaming the abused, and shuffling around known predators to other Congregations, but instead of tackling THOSE issues, you instead as an Organization, file suit against a known whistleblower like Mark O'Donnell who has done nothing but good and who's wife is a victim of abuse herself?

Man, you can't make this shit up! I'd been saying it for a long time now, but ever since the JW's have been caught with their pants down and members taking notice and discovering the "Truth about the Truth", that eventually they'll become just like the other cults with litigation to attempt to silence the abused and whistleblowers, ala Scientology-style. Welp, here we are!

Now, specifically this is 11 Congregations (so far). But we all know that 11 Congregations didn't do this on their own. Haha! Nope. Remember, the tools at the local level can't even decide on their own which TV to purchase for the Kingdom Hall, or whom to have service their HVAC system. Probably can't even order their own preference of toilet paper without the direct say-so and permission from the CO and LDC. So does anyone really buy that 11 Congregations got together to file a civil suit again Mark on charges he illegally wire-tapped? Uh, Noooooo. Not buying that.

WT HQ and Legal Dept: You are a bunch of slimy, low-life, weaselly mutherfuggers! You all would make the Pharisees blush with your tactics. The fact that you force NDA's on abuse victims before settling their lawsuits, who are brave enough to sue you for your covering up and protecting of pedophile Elders speaks volumes, as does your lying right to the courts.

Keep tightening your iron fist, and watch the exodus continue thru your fingers which are already dripping with the blood of the ignorant who've you killed with your flawed blood policies.

Further discussion on the announcement on the EX-JW Reddit sub: (hope you don't mind Simon)

https://old.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1kk7i73/the_jehovahs_witnesses_are_suing_me_for_millions/?sort=new

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Did the Fred Franz style of writing cease after he died?

by SydBarrett in

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i was completely out by 1991 and 1989 would have been the last time i had to attend regularly.

that over the top franz writing style was still there in the 1980's although i've heard he wasn't actually doing much writing by then.

but his style was definitely picked up and imitated for many years beyond its wacky, outlandish peak of the the 50's - 70's.

WingCommander

Simon: Any chance we can get this Catholic apologist banned off of here? I see their wall of text like I see a WatchTower article now; like Charlie Brown's teacher, "Whomp whomp whomp whomp" and I kind of start drifting off to sleep.

BOR-INNNNGGG!!!

Writers of 1970's: Fred Franz was the most influential, but by the 70's others had stepped in to help him. Ray Franz, Ed Dunlap (Commentary of James) and many others. So of course the style and prose of the literature was different depending on the piece and if they had written it more themselves or as a committee of group or authors overseen by the Writing Committee. I'd the 50's - 60's really reeked of Fred Franz's ranting types and anti-types prophetic nonsense.

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Did the Fred Franz style of writing cease after he died?

by SydBarrett in

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friends

i was completely out by 1991 and 1989 would have been the last time i had to attend regularly.

that over the top franz writing style was still there in the 1980's although i've heard he wasn't actually doing much writing by then.

but his style was definitely picked up and imitated for many years beyond its wacky, outlandish peak of the the 50's - 70's.

WingCommander

Is aqwebot123 a WatchTower shit-stirrer? Could be, could be................

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Did the Fred Franz style of writing cease after he died?

by SydBarrett in

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friends

i was completely out by 1991 and 1989 would have been the last time i had to attend regularly.

that over the top franz writing style was still there in the 1980's although i've heard he wasn't actually doing much writing by then.

but his style was definitely picked up and imitated for many years beyond its wacky, outlandish peak of the the 50's - 70's.

WingCommander

@aqwsed12345

That was a great summary, right up until the last sentence where it dived into praising Catholicism.

It's like a long winded joke, and Catholicism was the punch-line.

I felt like Dave Chappelle had jumped out and yelled, "Gotcha, Bitch!!!!!"

Only difference is, I'm not laughing.

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Loyalty to the Governing Body? Timeline to Change

by blondie in

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https://jwfacts.com/watchtower/governing-body.php .

here is an example how the wts has "adjusted" scripture.

the governing body has gone as far as to change the text of micah 6:8 in their 2013 new world translation of the holy scriptures (nwt) in order to be able to demand loyalty.

WingCommander

It's obvious; they play with words to reinforce their imaginary "Authority."

AKA:

Their Lordship

Kings over the Earth

Appointed by Gawwwd

Not to be questioned! Just STFU, Listen, OBEY, and Donate! Keep shoveling the coal!

What a freakin' CULT!

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Loyalty to the Governing Body? Timeline to Change

by blondie in

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friends

https://jwfacts.com/watchtower/governing-body.php .

here is an example how the wts has "adjusted" scripture.

the governing body has gone as far as to change the text of micah 6:8 in their 2013 new world translation of the holy scriptures (nwt) in order to be able to demand loyalty.

WingCommander

OMG, that is absolutely SINISTER and down-right blasphemous! It's changes like this combined with the control, money grab, the very real passage of time (not even supposed to still be in this Old System of Things in 2025!) that have solidified the fact that I was born and raised in a cult. I feel so bad for my late parents whom were exposed and then finally suckered in the mid-70's into this cult. SMH. What a waste of time and youth.

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Did the Fred Franz style of writing cease after he died?

by SydBarrett in

jw
friends

i was completely out by 1991 and 1989 would have been the last time i had to attend regularly.

that over the top franz writing style was still there in the 1980's although i've heard he wasn't actually doing much writing by then.

but his style was definitely picked up and imitated for many years beyond its wacky, outlandish peak of the the 50's - 70's.

WingCommander

Honestly, you can really see the downhill slide of the literature after Fred Franz's death in 1992. The Writing Dept was able to recycle his stuff for about a decade and limp it along, but honestly the jig was up. Especially after 1995's "Generation" change.

I can honestly look back right at the point and time and state with confidence, "It was over, they just didn't know it."

GB 1.0 and the new 2.0 with Splain, just don't have the old writing chops to be "The Oracle." Combine this was a younger "generation" who couldn't care less about the previous World Wars and weirdo math combined with types and anti-types nonsense, and you've got a recipe for disaster.

And so it is, that the JW's will very shortly, soon! Any day now! Look like any remaining Congregation of Christadelphians. (if you can find one, that is) - full of grey hairs and ZERO youth. Oh sure, the Kings at the top will hold out for a few decades up on their compound by the lake living off their investment and hedge funds, but that's about it. It's all over. Will the last goat out, switch off the ol' light? lol

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WASHINGTON ST PASSES BILL MANDATING CLERGY REPORTING CHILD ABUSE

by blondie in

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https://www.thereflector.com/stories/washington-legislature-passes-bill-to-make-clergy-mandatory-reporters-of-child-abuse,378913 .

WingCommander

I always had to laugh at the "We don't have clergy" claim, even as kid growing up in it. Oh sure! Care to test that claim? Just start questioning the Elduhz or the CO's or complaining in any fashion, and find out damn quick who Lords it over you in the Congregation! You'll be asked to the back room for a "meeting to adjust your bad attitude and/or thinking."

"No clergy", my ass! lol