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  "my Father is greater than I" and the Trinity

  by hooberus in

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  "ye have heard how i said unto you, i go away, and come again unto you.

  if ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because i said, i go unto the father: for my father is greater than i.

  " john 14:28 .

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  "my Father is greater than I" and the Trinity

  by hooberus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "ye have heard how i said unto you, i go away, and come again unto you.

  if ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because i said, i go unto the father: for my father is greater than i.

  " john 14:28 .

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  All About The Trinity

  by UnDisfellowshipped in

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  when jesus was about to die, he showed who his superior was by praying: "father, if you wish, remove this cup from me.

  the one god is eternal (has always existed and always will), immortal (his divine nature cannot die), omnipotent (all-powerful), omniscient (all-knowing), omnipresent (he is everywhere at the same time), god is the only one who can read human hearts and minds, god cannot sin and cannot lie, god does not change his morals or his nature.

  the trinity is not one person revealed three different ways (this is what "oneness pentecostals" believe).

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  All About The Trinity

  by UnDisfellowshipped in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  when jesus was about to die, he showed who his superior was by praying: "father, if you wish, remove this cup from me.

  the one god is eternal (has always existed and always will), immortal (his divine nature cannot die), omnipotent (all-powerful), omniscient (all-knowing), omnipresent (he is everywhere at the same time), god is the only one who can read human hearts and minds, god cannot sin and cannot lie, god does not change his morals or his nature.

  the trinity is not one person revealed three different ways (this is what "oneness pentecostals" believe).

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  "Diagrams like this explain the Trinity very well."
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  287

  All About The Trinity

  by UnDisfellowshipped in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  when jesus was about to die, he showed who his superior was by praying: "father, if you wish, remove this cup from me.

  the one god is eternal (has always existed and always will), immortal (his divine nature cannot die), omnipotent (all-powerful), omniscient (all-knowing), omnipresent (he is everywhere at the same time), god is the only one who can read human hearts and minds, god cannot sin and cannot lie, god does not change his morals or his nature.

  the trinity is not one person revealed three different ways (this is what "oneness pentecostals" believe).

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  herk

  "Diagrams like this explain the Trinity very well."
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  "my Father is greater than I" and the Trinity

  by hooberus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "ye have heard how i said unto you, i go away, and come again unto you.

  if ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because i said, i go unto the father: for my father is greater than i.

  " john 14:28 .

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  86

  "my Father is greater than I" and the Trinity

  by hooberus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "ye have heard how i said unto you, i go away, and come again unto you.

  if ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because i said, i go unto the father: for my father is greater than i.

  " john 14:28 .

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  86

  "my Father is greater than I" and the Trinity

  by hooberus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "ye have heard how i said unto you, i go away, and come again unto you.

  if ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because i said, i go unto the father: for my father is greater than i.

  " john 14:28 .

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  86

  "my Father is greater than I" and the Trinity

  by hooberus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "ye have heard how i said unto you, i go away, and come again unto you.

  if ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because i said, i go unto the father: for my father is greater than i.

  " john 14:28 .

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  86

  "my Father is greater than I" and the Trinity

  by hooberus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "ye have heard how i said unto you, i go away, and come again unto you.

  if ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because i said, i go unto the father: for my father is greater than i.

  " john 14:28 .

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  herk

  hooberus,

  The Trinity teaches that Jesus and the Father are equal in terms of nature, but allows that the Father was greater by postion when Jesus became a servant.

  The Father is eternally greater by position:

  • Due to the master/servant relationship between sender and sent one, Jesus could not have been equal with the Father at the time he was sent. (John 13:16)
  • Jesus is forever "the Apostle and High Priest of our confession." He will always be the one who was sent forth by the Father as an Apostle. (Hebrews 3:1; 18:8)
  • The Father "is greater than all." (John 10:29) That includes Jesus, for only of the Father is it said that he is the "one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all." (Ephesians 4:6) Only "from him and through him and to him are all things. To him be the glory forever. Amen." (Romans 11:36)
  • The Father is eternally the God whom Jesus worships. (John 20:17; Revelation 3:2, 12) "My God" meant the same to Jesus as it did to Paul. (Romans 1:8; 1 Corinthians 1:4; 2 Corinthians 12:21; Philippians 1:3; 4:19; Philemon 4)
  • Though the Father entrusted Jesus with all authority in heaven and on earth, "it is evident that he is excepted who put all things in subjection to him." (Matthew 28:18; 1 Corinthians 15:27) The time will come when "the Son himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to him, so that God [the Father] may be all in all." (1 Corinthians 15:28)

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