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How can Jesus be God since he referred to the Father as "my God"
by hooberus in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
ron rhodes quotes paul g. weathers: .

since christ came as man, and since one of the proper duties of man is to worship, pray to, and adore [god], it was perfectly proper for jesus to call the father "my god" and to address him in prayer.

positionally speaking as a man, as a jew, and as our high priest ("made like his brothers in every way," heb.
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Does Jesus being the "Son of God" mean that he is not God by nature ?
by hooberus in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
in bible times the phrase "the son of god" was understood as a claim to the nature of god, not a claim to be a lesser being:.

" john 19:7. .

ron rhodes commments:.
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Is Jesus inferior because it says that He will "be subject" in 1 Cor 15:28?
by hooberus in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
"and when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that god may be all in all.

" 1 corinthians 15:28. .

the watchower implies that since jesus is said to be "subject" unto "him that put all things under him" that therefore jesus is inferior to god, and the trinity is thus not true.
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All About The Trinity
by UnDisfellowshipped in
1. watchtower
2. bible
when jesus was about to die, he showed who his superior was by praying: "father, if you wish, remove this cup from me.

the one god is eternal (has always existed and always will), immortal (his divine nature cannot die), omnipotent (all-powerful), omniscient (all-knowing), omnipresent (he is everywhere at the same time), god is the only one who can read human hearts and minds, god cannot sin and cannot lie, god does not change his morals or his nature.

the trinity is not one person revealed three different ways (this is what "oneness pentecostals" believe).
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Is Jesus inferior because He was "sent" by the Father?
by hooberus in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
the watchtower implies that since jesus was "sent" by the father that therefore he must be inferior to the father: .

"is not the sender superior to the one sent?

" should you believe in the trinity.
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BEACON...........Who are they ????????????
by Aikon in
1. jw
2. friends
hi guys.

i have come accross a web site called "beacon"................ it is run by ex- jehovahs witnesses.

does any one know anything about this site??thanks.
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Should You Believe in the Trinity?
by Tower Man in
1. jw
2. friends
i posted this about 1 year ago and people seemed to really enjoy it.

it's a simulated discussion about the watchtower's main anti-trinity booklet named, should you believe in the trinity.

the purpose of the article is not to validate or discredit the trinity, but solely to examine the watchtower's literary honesty or dishonesty.
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"my Father is greater than I" and the Trinity
by hooberus in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
"ye have heard how i said unto you, i go away, and come again unto you.

if ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because i said, i go unto the father: for my father is greater than i.

" john 14:28 .
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The Governing Body and the Board of Directors
by hooberus in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
the governing body and the board of directors

modern society claims

"from the incorporation of the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania in 1884 until 1972, the president of the society exercised great authority in jehovah's organization, while the governing body was closely associated with the society's board of directors.
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Heb. 1:6 (even in the NWT !) shows Jesus not to be an angel, but Jehovah
by hooberus in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
for the sake of argument lets assume that the current nwt is correct in rendering proskuneo as "obesiance" .

"but when he again brings his firstborn into the inhabited earth, he says: 'and let all god's angels do obeisance to him" hebrews 1:6 the new world translation.. 1. if all (as in 100%) of the angels of god do obeisance to him, then he could not be an angel.

all (as in 100%) must include michael.