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  "my Father is greater than I" and the Trinity

  by hooberus in

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  "ye have heard how i said unto you, i go away, and come again unto you.

  if ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because i said, i go unto the father: for my father is greater than i.

  " john 14:28 .

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  herk

  UnDisfellowshipped,

  I am not a Catholic image-worshiper, therefore, why are you using Catholic Trinity images to try to show what I believe?

  You admit that Catholics are image worshippers. But even though you worship the same false god(s), you deny that you also are an image worshipper! Think about that!

  On the other hand, I don't believe as JWs do. So your attempt at linking me with them is without effect.

  Why not? When Jesus was on earth, when Jesus said "God", He was referring to The Father. So, Jesus was saying: "believe in God [The Father], believe also in Me [The Son]."

  It is mere wishful thinking on your part that "God" in the Bible means only the Father at times and that "God" means a trinity at other times. You have nothing--absolutely nothing--in Scripture to support such a preposterous idea.

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  86

  "my Father is greater than I" and the Trinity

  by hooberus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "ye have heard how i said unto you, i go away, and come again unto you.

  if ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because i said, i go unto the father: for my father is greater than i.

  " john 14:28 .

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  86

  "my Father is greater than I" and the Trinity

  by hooberus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "ye have heard how i said unto you, i go away, and come again unto you.

  if ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because i said, i go unto the father: for my father is greater than i.

  " john 14:28 .

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  herk

  UnDisfellowshipped,

  So, my point is, what do idolatrous images made in the past by idolatrous false "Christians" have to do with whether or not the Bible teaches the Trinity? I personally do not care how idolators view the Trinity. I care what the Bible says.

  All Trinitarians are idolaters. For thousands of years before Christ, God's people never worshipped a triune god, and today they still do not worship such a pagan deity. If you were truly honest with yourself, you would admit that you really do not "care what the Bible says." The Bible does not teach the Trinity doctrine--anywhere. You find it there because you want to find it there. You search the Scriptures for support of what you already believe, not for what the people of the Bible believed.

  Would you like it, or would it prove anything, if I were to make fun of your beliefs on the basis of what the Watchtower Society believes and teaches, instead of on the basis of what the Bible says?

  In view of our past discussions, you should know that I'm not a JW and that I do not believe their doctrines about God and the origin of Jesus. herk
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  86

  "my Father is greater than I" and the Trinity

  by hooberus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "ye have heard how i said unto you, i go away, and come again unto you.

  if ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because i said, i go unto the father: for my father is greater than i.

  " john 14:28 .

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  86

  "my Father is greater than I" and the Trinity

  by hooberus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "ye have heard how i said unto you, i go away, and come again unto you.

  if ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because i said, i go unto the father: for my father is greater than i.

  " john 14:28 .

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  86

  "my Father is greater than I" and the Trinity

  by hooberus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "ye have heard how i said unto you, i go away, and come again unto you.

  if ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because i said, i go unto the father: for my father is greater than i.

  " john 14:28 .

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  86

  "my Father is greater than I" and the Trinity

  by hooberus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "ye have heard how i said unto you, i go away, and come again unto you.

  if ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because i said, i go unto the father: for my father is greater than i.

  " john 14:28 .

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  herk

  Trinitarians accuse non-trinitarians of making fun of Jesus. Then when they're shown that it is the Trinitarians who are the ones who ridicule God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit, they ask, "What does that have to do with our discussion?"

  It's so sad that Trinitarians reject the Bible and have created a God of their own choosing. They accuse non-trinitarians of worshipping a creature of God's making whereas they worship a creature of their own making.
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  86

  "my Father is greater than I" and the Trinity

  by hooberus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "ye have heard how i said unto you, i go away, and come again unto you.

  if ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because i said, i go unto the father: for my father is greater than i.

  " john 14:28 .

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  86

  "my Father is greater than I" and the Trinity

  by hooberus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "ye have heard how i said unto you, i go away, and come again unto you.

  if ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because i said, i go unto the father: for my father is greater than i.

  " john 14:28 .

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  86

  "my Father is greater than I" and the Trinity

  by hooberus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "ye have heard how i said unto you, i go away, and come again unto you.

  if ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because i said, i go unto the father: for my father is greater than i.

  " john 14:28 .

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  herk