Shunning is the WTS' only teeth and claws. Remove them and from the command chain beginning at the WTS ivory tower and down, even down to the elders, become nothing but paper tigers!
Power to the people!
Posts by Roddy
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83Judge Bans Shunning
by Farkel intoday i spoke with a former jw i've been in touch with for several years and discovered what i think could be a major bombshell for the wts.
as we all know, shunning is the most powerful weapon the wt cult has over its members and for decades the wts has been able to get away with practicing it at their whim.
the us and other courts have permitted them to to use it, even though it destroys families and has ruined countless lives.
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Judge Bans Shunning
by Farkel intoday i spoke with a former jw i've been in touch with for several years and discovered what i think could be a major bombshell for the wts.
as we all know, shunning is the most powerful weapon the wt cult has over its members and for decades the wts has been able to get away with practicing it at their whim.
the us and other courts have permitted them to to use it, even though it destroys families and has ruined countless lives.
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Roddy
>>"In summary, shunning must cease immediately because these children have already been harmed by the practice. Though the Jehovah's Witness Church has the right to shun certain individuals, in this case, the practice has damaged small children. <<
That should also put a chill on the WTS insistance in baptising minors thereby forcing them to live by rules and regulations they don't know about, forced upon them contrary to their emotions, and entirely at the cold whim of elders and higher-ups!
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My bethel application
by Elsewhere ini only did the two week temp thing, but i still had to fill out a long application and send it back.
one of the questions that stands out in my mind was something to the effect of: "do you believe that the organization of jehovah's witnesses is god's sole spirit directed organization on earth?
when i read that, i felt a strange sensation.
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Roddy
>>"Do you believe that the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses is God's sole spirit directed organization on earth?"<<
Isn't that the WTS Legal Dept inspired sentense that is used as the litmus test of a JW's loyalty?
I belive this is the sentense used in JC meetings too. If you say 'yes', then you lost all defense and the elders can basically lead you like a horse anyway they want you to go. If you say 'no', then you not only lost your defense, you're out.
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WTS and ISBN
by Roddy ini've been curious about something.
anyone has speculation or fact why the wts doesn't register their books with the isbn?
(www.isbn.org) every book worth anything carries an isbn number.
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Roddy
>>Probably another attempt to isolate themselves from the "World"<<
True. But someone told me that a most likely reason is because the WTS really doesn't like their publications to be "remembered".
As a publishing company, what the WTS fears the most is her own publications. ISBN cataloging also subjects published work to archiving, such as the Library of Congress and other mega libraries around the world. Whatever the WTS prints today she will have to hope people will forget about tomorrow, or worse, hope she doesn't have to defend or explain a reversal or answer criticism that she is regurgitating the same old material over and over again!
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WTS and ISBN
by Roddy ini've been curious about something.
anyone has speculation or fact why the wts doesn't register their books with the isbn?
(www.isbn.org) every book worth anything carries an isbn number.
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Roddy
>I guess you have to pay a fee to the ISBN-Organization. And it only makes sense when orders are taken through the normal book store. As we all know this is not the usual way of selling WT literature.<<
Perhaps but it is a small fee as even small publishers ISBN their works. Must be for act of getting your work cataloged and issued a catalog number.
The WTS is a billion dollar corporation.
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Printing to be moved out of Brooklyn Bethel
by cyberguy intoday, a friend of mine told me that a letter was read at his last service meeting, that brooklyn bethel was moving all printing operations to watchtower farms (if that's what they sill call it).
has anyone else heard about this?
i suspect that this move might be a way to downsize brooklyn bethel, perhaps with the idea that they can start selling much of their large, high-value estates in brooklyn, to compensate for their decreasing donations.
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Roddy
>> Today, a friend of mine told me that a letter was read at his last Service Meeting, that Brooklyn Bethel was moving all printing operations to Watchtower Farms (if that's what they sill call it). Has anyone else heard about this? <<
Yes, it is true. It's been in the grapevine for over a year. Even longer.
>>I suspect that this move might be a way to downsize Brooklyn Bethel, perhaps with the idea that they can start selling much of their large, high-value estates in Brooklyn, to compensate for their decreasing donations.<<
As the Olympics coming in ten years and the Big Apple most likely to get it, all those high-value estates will go up in value. And let's admit it, their Brooklyn properties are prime. A great deal is either waterfront or prime skyline view. They can rake in millions just on rentals. I really doubt they will sell. I think they will rent. But if they do sell, then we are talking MEGA millions!
You can also bet on Bethel layoffs. You won't hear it, of course. But the poor idiots that gave up on college and career to serve for years in Bethel will get the royal boot with no severence. I don't know if to laugh or take pity for them while the WTS laughs all the way to the bank.
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Elder Resigns Because Of 9---11
by minimus inlast night i talked to an elder that resigned early this year and he told me that he resigned as an elder because of 9--11. he felt that after seeing thousands of people dying in such a horrifying way, there was just no way god would destroy 99 and 9 tenths of the world and only spare jehovah's witnesses.
he also felt that since the kingdom message could not be adequately preached by a handful of jw's so that people could get life, the whole thing is a sham.
he no longer goes to meetings and his wife crys to everybody about her husband.
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Roddy
James2300 >> ...One brash young Bethelite guffawed at these words. The interesting thing is that no one else laughed with him. <<
I enjoyed your Bethel exprience a great deal, James2300. What I especially liked was your final words. Glad to see that at the very center of ground zero WTS propaganda that for every 1 self-righteous Bethelites there are still 99 Bethelites that are human beings.
There is hope yet!
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WSJ Says: Blood transfusions now Ok for JW's!
by Sara Annie inwall street journal, december 9, 2002. marketplace section in an article about mormons.... "the mormon church, of course, isn't the only religion to shun or cast out dissenting members, scholars say.
the vatican has excommunicated catholics for disobeying papal edicts.
many orthodox jews disown family members for marrying outside the faith.
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Roddy
NameWithheld >>As regards voting, what's in writing and what policy is enforced, is two different things. It was made clear at least in the US, that voting is still 'not allowed' from the COs onstage. <<
That was strange. I guess that is why I still remember it so well. After that WT article came out, when our CO came for his visit he basically contradicted everything that article said without saying he contradicted it. Strange smoke and mirrors.
Makes me wonder if that WT article was a strategic ploy for 'public' consumption rather than for the rank and file JW to use and, heaven forbid!, think for themselves.
Getting back to the WSJ article.
True, take blood and you are instantly DA.
DF or DA - different bullets, same gun, same result. More smoke and mirrors!
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Why JW's Ban the INTERNET
by Beans inhere are the reasons why jehovahs witnesses are shunned from the internet!.
beans.
http://www.quotes.jehovahswitnesses.com/internet.htm.
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Roddy
Elsewhere >>Sending emails to each other is a GREAT idea!!!<< ... >>Oh SH*T... that was a bad idea!!!<<
LOL! I think that is what happened.
Still, I can't describe how stupid they tried to make us rank & file JWs feel like. The WTS has no clue what the JWs thought of the article in private.
I think the Pharasees were more honest. They held their contempt for the stupid common folk plain and openly. They weren't bother with 'political correctness'.
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Patterson display for Jesus on Stake(pics)
by Jourles inif anyone was ever able to visit patterson and get a tour behind the service department's door, you would have noticed this display among the cubicles:.
and the answer to - "where should the nail be?
" you will notice that they do not even attempt to answer the question of the plurality mentioned in the bible regarding the nail(s) through only his hands; they attempt to throw you off by mentioning his feet too.
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Roddy
>>If anyone was ever able to visit Patterson and get a tour behind the Service Department's door, you would have noticed this display among the cubicles<<
Thanks for the information.
Since the WTS has no professional researchers with none of them having any kind of degree or certification for any element of their work there, I'm rather doubtful they even came up with the idea that the nail(s) didn't go through Jesus' center of his hand(s) but elsewhere. Of course, this wonderful new insight is accredited to the old men of the GB as "new light".