Posts by Roddy

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Society Needs to "Conserve Contributed Funds"

by Severus in

in another effort to crimp the production of materials, the society is asking jw members to consider reducing their orders of watchtower & awake!

audio recordings.. at service meetings this week, a letter is read to the congregation:.

publishers are asked to "conserve contributed funds" by considering which of the 3 formats of audio recording they really need.

Roddy

What is all the money for?

For the Society, I guess.

I wonder how Witnesses meeting in their kingdom and assembly halls would react knowing that all the money they pleged and continue to contribute for the upkeep of THEIR hall is actually tribute paid to the Society for using the facility? Unknown to them their elders, without so much as an announcement to the congregations, transfered ownership of the property to the Society for zero dollars.

(That's why I think all the parlimentary rules they follow when they ask the congregation for a vote for cutting checks and approving expenses for trivial matters as nothing more than a farce.)

The Society has it made. They get thousands of pieces of free real estate all around the world where all the maintenence is paid for by the Witnesses. They don't spend a penny.

And they keep looking for more money? I feel sick inside.

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Ever think why the collection box is in the back of the KHall?

by biddie in

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friends

i used to thinik it was better... but now i realize it was a way for the elders to keep an eye on who was giving!

biddie

Roddy

I think that they place them by the doors on purpose so when people are leaving they see them and guiltily remember the many tirades on YOU MUST GIVE US MONEY.

If the friends only knew that their kingdom hall doesn't belong to them. No sooner did they pay for the land and the materials the ownership was transfered to the Watchtower without so much as a disclosure to the congregations meeting there.

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AWAKE! JANUARY 2006, To Our Readers.

by Blueblades in

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friends

for those who have not yet seen this issue.

called "the golden age" in 1919, the name was changed to "consolation" in1937, and to "awake!

" in 1946. beginning with this issue, the format of awake!

Roddy

Going monthly? I'm shocked! What does it really mean? Any insider information on this move?

12

shepherding call

by stillajwexelder in

got a vist from two elders the other night - i lied (sorry guys) i told them what they wanted to hear - that is to say - the organization is wonderful

Roddy

- Theocratic warfare

- They aren't entitled to know the truth.

I had the same idea! Why should I say what I REALLY should say and have them cut my relatives and family away from me?

By the way, the shepherding call the elders wanted to give me months ago has never happened. LOL I was nervous. After writing to you guys about it I felt better. I even waited for them. And waited for them. And waited . . . . ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I guess I dodged that bullet. But when they eventually do so in the next months or years, I'll tell them the WTS is wonderful to have sent such wonderful shepherds to help me and that I think about returning to the kingdom hall all the time!

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WHY DOES THE WTBS HOARD CASH

by Happy Guy :) in

they must have billions...annual revenue alone was almost a billion last year.

they must have close to 10 billion in assets and a large chunk of that is cash.

if the world is going to end any day that cash is useless.

Roddy

I wouldn't be surprised if the WTS keeps off-shore financials, even a Swiss bank account, in order to hide nest eggs for itself, for officers, or both. With Franz out of the picture and with lawyers controlling the WTS more and more each year, with obvious prophesies coming past due, the pedophile and other issues pressing on them, and the decline of membership and decrease of activity of the current membership, I think the WTS is preparing for lean times or, if it doesn't seriously re-invent itself, the long haul into mainstream.

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Found an Awake at the rest stop today..and I knew exactly what to do....

by Dawn in

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friends

found it at a rest stop today while traveling.

i thought about tossing it, but decided it had a much better purpose.

it was an issue on what to teach your young child - cute picture of a little girl (about 4 years old) on the cover.. so - i took it to my car, got out a pretty purple pen and wrote on the cover "this religion has a major probelm with pedophiles and is hurtful to young children.

Roddy

Great idea!

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"we're just going to be dead" Dec. 1 2004 Watchtower

by metatron in

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friends

the latest watchtower carries a warning (pg16).

" what if there are some in the christian congregation who live double lives?

.... "one day one of them said to me:'it doesn't matter what we do now because when the.

Roddy

- " What if there are some in the Christian congregation who live double lives? ...

Because the WTS is the prime example of double living. I think I don't need to remind anyone of how the WTS says one thing and means another. Or how the WTS assumes to put blame on the membership for anything but will never accept blame for anything it does.

- "One day one of them said to me:'it doesn't matter what we do now because when the new system comes, we're just going to be dead. We're not going to know that we missed anything.' That kind of talk came as wake up call for me. I do not want to be dead when the new system comes"

I think that is a boldfaced lie of a story. I think that's the pretense or excuse for the article. You have to be in WT brainlock not to see the obvious intent. Anyway. What person fed-up with the WT religion will ever admit something like that extreme and unreal belief to anyone, especially an elder? Not unless you are eager to face a kangaroo judicial meeting and disfellowshipping.

I think it has become obvious that the WTS has exhausted every possible way to recycle rewrites of past WT articles and are inventing situations in order to give some excuse to put ink to paper. What a waste of tree life!

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Did Rutherford believe what he wrote?

by VM44 in

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friends

who thinks "judge" rutherford really believed what he wrote?.

i believe it was in the salter letter where it is stated that rutherford said once that he had "bluffed his way through life".

think he also "bluffed" his way when writing and talking about "the theocracy"?

Roddy

- Who thinks "Judge" Rutherford really believed what he wrote?

Unfortunately it seems, anyone who becomes a lawyer loses sight of morality and ethics and deals strictly on legalism. Beyond the favorable picture of what the WTS paints of Rutherford, other sources of information regarding Rutherford paint him as a dictatorial ego driven oppertunist who insisted that everyone live according to his dictates except he himself.

- I believe it was in the Salter letter where it is stated that Rutherford said once that he had "bluffed his way through life"

I read Olin Moyle's letter where he gave many reasons why he and his wife left Bethel which were for moral issues ranging from debauchery among Bethelites to Rutherford's own unchristian lifestyle.

- Think he also "bluffed" his way when writing and talking about "The Theocracy"?

I think he bluffed about everything. As a professional university educated lawyer among ignorant sheep ready for the taking - given the vacuum from Russell's death - he rolled-over everybody. That's why I'm willing to bet that while any convert with a college education will be used, no one with a college degree will ever be a member of the GB.

- Rutherford once said to a convention that he was not the head of the Jehovah's Witnesses. That was a very, very insideous way of actually increasing his hold/power on the followers.

What better way to increase power than to make yourself the mouthpiece of God and then to proceed to make such a statement to stifle any disagreements and contrary politics?

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Legal Reason Why Elders Are So Corrupt

by metatron in

many of you are aware of the society's oral instructions regarding the mailed forms for disfellowshipping.. in elder's school, these instructions are given orally while the audience is told to write them in their "pay attention".

books ( elder handbook).

basically, don't say anything that links them to df'ing someone.. it may be that the society is seeking to distance themselves from the actions of local elders - or simply using that as.

Roddy

The WTS does that so when the local elders do the stupid thing the corporation is held harmless. But it's a two edged sword that can also work in your favor once you see the special angle. And the special angle is this: You can tell the elder or elders that if they do anything then you will hold them PERSONALLY liable and that they should carefully remember that the WTS will not defend or represent them in court - they are on their own and they can't run to Mommy for help. Mommy has them out on the limb like the monkeys they are. You'll get a badass lawyer, drag their asses into court, and sue them for everything they have! And then decide if you want to press for crimminal charges.

So nice to see elders and their lackeys run scared for a change.

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Comments You Wont' Hear at the 9-5-04 WT Study (Abbreviated)

by blondie in

do you think it will be sparse at the meeting today?

i went to a congo where a large group went camping every labor day weekend but only by invitation.

comments you will not hear at the 9-5-04 wt study (august 1, 2004 issue) (abbreviated)

Roddy

<<Wow! That pic of Moe Howard is freaking me out!>>

I should change that. Until I find a better picture I'll just go without one for now. It's time to move on.