Vanderhoven7
"Information withheld from members."
That was my shocker. Why the secret information and secret procedures? Why withhold information and appeals? Why the entrapments? That got me to distrust. And it it followed from there.
"Information withheld from members."
That was my shocker. Why the secret information and secret procedures? Why withhold information and appeals? Why the entrapments? That got me to distrust. And it it followed from there.
Actually in the congregation I was in all the elders were very good men. Even when they had to see me in a judicial meeting once they gave me the benefit of the doubt and actually took my side.
Then came one elder that it appears he didn't like me. Friendly in public but I can tell from his attitude he wouldn't care if I never came to the meetings. I guess you can say that our personalities clashed. I wouldn't kiss up to him. The other elders were not that way. They were really good people. From some of the experiences I read here, really good elders seem to be a shortage in the congregations.
i've been out of this loop (or any other) for a while.
can someone tell me if the bethel farm facilities are still there in wallkill county, ny?
i was there for about a year.
Mann377
"Wonder what the Bethel office would say if I had jumped out of the shower while the sisters were there"
The presumed "judicial decision" is that you fornicated with the sisters. It's like as if they were with you alone in a house or motel even when you would swear on everything holy that you are innocent of any such act even in thought. You would be summarily guilty of fornication with those sisters in the men's room.
Sad!
a little surprised to see steven hassan interviewed today on cnn about the anti-vax believers and cult tactics.
here is the link:.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2021/10/02/steven-hassan-cult-misinformation-anti-vaxxers-ndwknd-vpx.cnn.
When you know someone who is suffering from an incurable vaccination injury, the favorable odds of you not getting a vaccination side effect doesn't seem comforting. It's like playing Russian Roulette with a 500,000 chamber revolver. What are the odds that your spin lands on a loaded chamber? Well, there are many medical professionals making the informed decision of not taking the Covid shot even given those favorable odds you won't land on a loaded chamber.
(I feel for people who are strong-armed into taking the Covid shot by their governments or employers. It's tough to choose between being able to pay your mortgage or rent and your personal freedoms involving "your body your choice.")
Vaccine injuries are documented but not well known nor widely mentioned. They should be. The CDC has a webpage of known vaccine injuries. You won't see an entry for Covid and its strains. At least not yet.
For FYI anyway ...
three christian churches and three luxury hotels have been attacked in sri lanka this morning resulting in more than 130 deaths.. buddhism is the state religion in sri lanka accounting for 70% of the population, hindus make up 12% with islam and christianity comprising 9% and 7% respectively.
no group has yet claimed responsibility.
a civil war between government forces and separatist tamil tigers ended in 2009. the war lasted 26 years and cost at least 70,000 lives.
All the more reason to limit the number of Muslims allowed to enter a country - at the very least, limit those that embrace the militant aggressive form of Islam that is 100% incompatible with Western values and human rights. Certainly don't offer preferential treatment to them as potential immigrants as currently happens.
Japan has taken notice. That's why she won't accept Muslim refugees.
She didn't care what anybody said at the time. Still doesn't. Now she watches relatively peacefully while those that criticized Japan's stance are having to deal with the problems.
i got up late today.
i hear the doorbell ring and i go - not really dressed for company - i stand back and see a jw man maybe 60 years old or so.
at first i was just going to brush him off.
I'd invite a discussion. That's better than launching salvos of accusations.
three christian churches and three luxury hotels have been attacked in sri lanka this morning resulting in more than 130 deaths.. buddhism is the state religion in sri lanka accounting for 70% of the population, hindus make up 12% with islam and christianity comprising 9% and 7% respectively.
no group has yet claimed responsibility.
a civil war between government forces and separatist tamil tigers ended in 2009. the war lasted 26 years and cost at least 70,000 lives.
Christians don't suicide bomb. Buddhists don't suicide bomb. Hindus don't suicide bomb. Who's left?
i was doing research on another topic and this question came to mind.
notice how the wts dances around the question below and then my comments about that and whether historically did the wts see isaiah as applying to all jws or only anointed members, spiritual israel (galatians 6:16)?.
are christians to be witnesses of jesus or jehovah?.
I say we are witnesses of Jehovah. Because Jesus' will was to do his Father's will. He was our example to the means of serving God not of serving Jesus. But I think Jesus will accept service of him as long as that service glorifies his Father.
i applaud this great and holy man!
do you?.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fstqepi9iu.
Counter productive.
jehovah's witnesses... who sent the star of bethlehem?.
the watchtower teach their followers that the star of bethlehem was sent by non other than satan... however as we take a look at the scriptures by comparing spiritual things with spiritual we begin to see that the star of bethlehem was not sent by satan, but used for the glory of god.a seasonal message to end the year.. watch now here :.
Really interesting research, Bobcat. Thanks for contributing.