Posts by Crazyguy

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WTS Rich or Hurting for $$$

by Zeds Dead in

seen a few discussions asking if the wts are hurting for $$ or still sitting on a mountain of gold.. regardless of their child abuse legal fees and ongoing broadcasting for more dough, i believe they have piles and piles of cash.. talked with a diff'd accountant who sat in the accounting dept.

at the conventions for years.. a football stadium (or the like) costs them about $70 - 90,000 to rent for a 3 day dub show.

they take in $400,000 in donations from the r&f.

Crazyguy

They sold off many of thier buildings in New York so no thier not hurting anymore. They have also downsized costs. Now it's about long term survival for them. You can tell someone is running the show that's not the GB. I think thier biggest concern is falling membership. Most countries don't have the money to give and the US members are becoming poorer and poorer.

The number of US members that are of Latin decent and probably illegals are becoming the major population of jws in the coming years. So in the end it's about falling numbers of members that's driving thier decisions. I bet they have less then 4 million adult baptized members that are actually in a position to give money if they wish. 4 million and falling!

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Major congregational quake in Southern California

by Hecce in

this notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.

a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.

the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.

Crazyguy

I father died broke homeless and destitute same with my mother in law. You can thank the Borg for that. My father in law will also die broke only my mother thanks to worldly money will not. I have a sneaky suspicion that any money she has left over will go to my sister which is fine by me!

All in all I think most jws die the way my father did with no money to give to anyone let alone the cult.

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Arrival of War in 1914 a Shocking Development

by berrygerry in

one comment-giver during the rules study, remarked that ww1 was predicted by wt to arrive in 1914, despite the fact that everyone expected an era of unparalleled peace.. this was something continuously drilled into our heads - how peaceful everything was prior to ww1.. when you look at wt library under 'world war i' - "unexpected" - the results are all offline - there are no recent references ( unexpected: re 106; w92 5/1 4-5; yb87 124; w86 2/15 5; w86 11/1 6 ).

http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200276290.

the offline quotes are as follows:.

Crazyguy

I didn't realize until yesterday that Nelson Bourbor also was in to pyramidalogy. I realize now that they were predicting Armageddon and using the pyramid measurements as proof. I always thought Russell went to Egypt and used The measurements to confirm the date.

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Arrival of War in 1914 a Shocking Development

by berrygerry in

one comment-giver during the rules study, remarked that ww1 was predicted by wt to arrive in 1914, despite the fact that everyone expected an era of unparalleled peace.. this was something continuously drilled into our heads - how peaceful everything was prior to ww1.. when you look at wt library under 'world war i' - "unexpected" - the results are all offline - there are no recent references ( unexpected: re 106; w92 5/1 4-5; yb87 124; w86 2/15 5; w86 11/1 6 ).

http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200276290.

the offline quotes are as follows:.

Crazyguy

The fools back then expected a war alright Armageddon. They thought they were all going to heaven.

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Moving to Warwick Video incl. Morning Worship

by Listener in

a new video is up about the commencement of moving to warwick.shawn bartlett tells the viewers that jehovah has said, through the governing body, ‘it’s time to move out of brooklyn.

‘ then helper robert lucciona says ‘ the governing body, these brothers, as soon as they see god’s direction, they just move, it doesn’t matter if it is long held, cherished ideas, this is the way it has to be done, as soon as they see jehovahs direction.

he just kept nudging imperfect humans, he knew where he wanted us and then we end up where we are supposed to be.

Crazyguy

Wonder how nice the new homes are for the GB? Maybe they don't even live there , maybe they actually live in New York City in some nice condos?

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Finding out that jws are not what they make out to be

by nomorepain13 in

*warning this is long* it all started on the last day of the "remain loyal to jehovah" convention.

a little background story, i've been raised as a jw, been in and out of the religon, never baptised but was made an unbaptized publisher about 3 years ago, always felt out of place in the congregation, blamed myself for this because if i had just went to meetings and did all the right things then i would have friends and not be in the mess that i was.

right after becoming an unbaptized publisher i met my now fiance, end up leaving my mother's house to live with him, elders haven't contacted me about my situation even though i'm sure they know as my step father is an elder...but anyway on the last day of the convention my fiance came with me as i was visiting my mother and had planned to go with her and her husband to the convention.

Crazyguy

The way your fiancé was treated should be enough for you to understand that the JW religion is nothing like what the character Jesus was teaching. If you fiancé is as great of a guy as you say he is then be with him, be loyal to him and tell him your done with the Cult of Jehovah Witnesses. You only live once, don't waste time.

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The parable of the sheep and the goats!

by TimothyT in

i was reading again the parapble jesus spoke to his disciples about the sheep and goats.

when i read it, it was plain and simple in my eyes.. 34 then the king will say to those on his right, come, you who have been blessed by my father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the founding of the world.

35 for i became hungry and you gave me something to eat; i got thirsty and you gave me something to drink.

Crazyguy

It's called the laity class and virtually all Christian religions have them and this is where they the leaders all claim their power in one way or another. It's always been about power.

Look at some of the Bible writings the Jewish priests wanted people to have to come to the temple at Jerusalem so they the priests could benefit from the people's giving of food and money that the priests could take.

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A Stupid Prayer by Jesus

by deegee in

so jesus prayed:"father, forgive them, for they don't know what they are doing" (luke 23:34).. how must god forgive those who put jesus to death when god required jesus' death as the only mechanism by which he would or could forgive individual humans for their sins and grant them salvation?.

1 john 1:6-8 (nkjv):"but if we walk in the light as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of jesus christ his son cleanses us from all sin.".

romans 4:24-25 (niv):"for us who believe in him who raised jesus our lord from the dead.

Crazyguy

The whole thing is stupid, it's just a passion play. I'm mean really god allows the murder of his first creation and a slow painful death at that all because a man several thousand years earlier chooses to eat a piece of fruit with his wife. This is the best God can do is kill his own son when he already passed three temptations by Satan, why not just die in his sleep? Anyway the Bible said Job was perfect so that kills the whole thing also Jesus said he didn't come for the righteous ones just sinners, so there were already righteous ones? The whole thing is a mess.

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Statue of Marsyas died on a stake?

by enigma1863 in

so jws have been spreading this picture around claiming it supports the roman torture stake belief.

this is the statue of marsyas the satyr, a greek mythical creature.

he lost a challenge to apollo and was flayed.

Crazyguy

There a scripture in john I believe where it's mentioned that the word Nails is used when describing Jesus hands being nails to a tree or stake or cross. One could easily argue that this plural use of the word means that Jesus hands were nails separately.

I also believe that it's been proven that if ones hands are placed above the head and then nailed to a stake the body would fall off. Not sure if this is true but it seams to make sense.

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Anybody else having trouble walking away?

by JW-Matrix in

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ok...so i'm a 19 year old fifth generation jw.

mentality, i've been out of the "truth" since i was 16(woke up after i was baptized ironically), but on the outside i'm a model jw.

my parents are really devoted, my grandparents are super devoted, and so are my ants and uncles.

Crazyguy

I think if I was awake at 19 with so many family in I would play both sides. I would have the life I wanted never believing any of it and just do as little as possible to keep the family happy. One can fake their hours and once your busy with your career etc you could just be to busy for any advancement. If a family memeber ever asks why your not advancing you could make up a number of comments.