Very good point no snow no melt no river. I did a lot of research on the garden of eden and found that the original stories were about a place called Deliun. My spelling maybe incorrect but anyway this garden was actually area near Kuwait near the end of the rivers not the beginning.
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River flowing from the garden of Eden
by joey jojo inhey there.. if this point has been covered before please forgive me.. i have had the principles of noahs flood used by jw's to encourage me to attend meetings recently and this has got me musing about the flood....again.. genesis states that a river flowed from eden and branched out into four rivers, two of which being the tigris and the euphrates.. heres the baffling part; if it had never rained before, how is it that rivers existed before the flood?!!?.
a brief google search tells us that the euphrates begins its journey as snow melt and rain ( as most rivers do) in mountains in turkey.. ecc chapter 1 mentions the water cycle and describes the rivers flowing into the sea but the sea not becoming full.
how did it work pre-flood?
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What is the basis for advising “Don’t pursue higher studies”?
by venus intwo elders who visited my friend last week encouraged her not to pursue higher studies.
it seems they are dishing out the same old stuff: “the end is imminent, and this is the time to do more in the service; hence don’t waste your resources on higher studies.”.
i wonder whether there was some official communiqué (something that is sent out recently like letter to the elders, or kingdom ministry article …).
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It's sad to see so many so poor. I have a friend that does auto mechanical work and has several sisters and even a brother or two need work done on thier cars and couldn't pay for it. Thier desperate but put a good face at the meetings so most don't know.
My father, father in law and mother in law who was divorced from her husband all died destitute. Two didn't even have a home and relied on others for housing.
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Policemen beat up 15-year-old JW boy
by darkspilver ina father complains that several policemen beat his 15 year old son "because the family is jehovah's witness and the black race".
http://www.martinoticias.com/a/cuba-golpiza-menor-estacion-policia-moron-/140761.html.
see also https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5714189639221248/_post/4898637962280960.
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Crazyguy
In never said it was ok for the cops to beat him up!! But just that JWs believe everything that's bad that happens to them is because thier being persecuted as JWs
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Todays WT theme scripture
by NikL inso today's study article uses 1cor 3:17 as it's theme text.. i looked it over and if you read from 14 an interesting thing happens.... 14 but their minds were dulled.+ for to this present day, the same veil remains unlifted when the old covenant is read,+ because it is taken away only by means of christ.+ 15 in fact, to this day whenever moses is read,+ a veil lies upon their hearts.+ 16 but when one turns to jehovah,* the veil is taken away.+ 17 now jehovah* is the spirit,+ and where the spirit of jehovah* is, there is freedom.+ .
so my question is, is it by "means of christ" or by "turning to jehovah" that the veil is taken away?.
in any other translation i've looked at, the use of the word lord is employed leading one to assume that it's turning to the christ that takes the veil away..
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They keep inserting the name jehovah all over the place in the NT. Funny thing is like in this case it makes it look as though Jesus and Jehovah are the same person. Idiots!!
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Policemen beat up 15-year-old JW boy
by darkspilver ina father complains that several policemen beat his 15 year old son "because the family is jehovah's witness and the black race".
http://www.martinoticias.com/a/cuba-golpiza-menor-estacion-policia-moron-/140761.html.
see also https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5714189639221248/_post/4898637962280960.
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Crazyguy
JWs always claim persecution because thier JWs . The police probably beat him for a veritably of other reasons.
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Christianity (Including JWs) Debunked
by HowTheBibleWasCreated in1 cor.
15: 21,22 rnwt: for since death came through a man,+ resurrection of the dead also comes through a man.+ 22 for just as in adam all are dying,+ so also in the christ all will be made alive.. .
so according to the nt jesus makes alive those that die in adam.. given the overwhelming evidence that adam as a man did not exist jws lose the battle on this verse.. however foolish christians like pentecostals and catholics like to call adam figurative.. okay... read it again^^^^^^... .
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You said the OT has been debunked well so has the NT. Most of NT Christianity was stolen from the ancient religion of Egypt. Christ was a retelling of Osiris and Horus with some Greek god stories and even some Babylonian thrown in. So this made up character is saying some thing about another made up character, hey it works.
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Finished Mystery (1917)... The book that Jesus approved...
by Alfred inso a few months ago, a friend sent me an actual copy of finished mystery which was published in 1917 (not a pdf download... the actual book).
i must say, this was the most disturbing book i have ever had the displeasure of reading.
but i only read it because this was the main publication that was being distributed worldwide when jesus supposedly chose the watchtower in 1918 and i basically wanted to see for myself what jesus saw in the wt that would compel him to choose this religious corporation over all other religious denominations.. anyway, if anyone is interested in knowing the actual contents of this book, here are some bullet points i put together from some of the notes i took as i read the book:.
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Anyone have a copy of this book I'll would like to buy it.
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This week's wt paragraph 13 and 15 free will
by poopie indoes forcing people to shun other people violate free will?
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They force people to shun, if you don't do it your DFD!
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I wrote to Mr. Angus Stewart regarding the "inactive" status claims made by the Watchtower at the ARC
by EdenOne inthis is the email i have just sent to mr. stewart angus, who has been conducting the questioning of the jw leaders during the australian royal commission dealing with child abuse cases among the jehovah's witnesses, concerning the claims made that a jehovah witness who wishes to walk away from the organization can simply become inactive and avoid being shunned:.
dear mr. angus stewart,
i have followed with interest the videos of the arc regarding the jehovah's witnesses in australia.
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Crazyguy
so if the ones that leave are the ones shunning the members of the congregation then why when someone has DAd or be come inactive when they return they are still shuned until the elders meet with them to talk about thier sins or are made to wait over a year as if DFD like those that have DAd? -
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The Bible Texts Watchtower has never commented on
by ILoveTTATT2 inthe watchtower library is a great tool to learn more about the watchtower itself.
for example, answering the question "does the word "organization" ever appear in the bible"?
is easy to answer using it.
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Crazyguy
Ephesians 2:8-9 works is for boasting.