Posts by Crazyguy

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Argentina: Two JWs accused of abuse

by darkspilver in

i can't vouch for the veracity of this website neither do i know anything regarding the reliability of the scource/s.. you should also be aware that the following articles do not appear to have been covered by https://abusostj.wordpress.com.

i understand that the following reports are regarding an ongoing situation in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/santa_elena,_entre_r%c3%ados.

26 april 2017. report of abuse of two jehovah's witnesses.

Crazyguy

You go girls let these scum bags have it !!!!

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The 2016 year,How do you score the J.W's??

by karter in

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with the a.r.c.,closing bethles,selling off k.h's.publisher numbers at best stagnating,court case's going against them.. i give a 3 out of 10.. karter.

Crazyguy

Here the thing if thier only ground by very little each year based of baptisms then we really can tell what's really going on. Baptisms i.e. Former publishers means no real growth at all. Then with many quitting being DFD and others dying, what we really have is a decline. Now factor in all those that quit after 1975 all those that quit after the 1995 change in The Generation, the final conclusion must be thier really much smaller in number then they lead us to believe. I'd say maybe 3 million baptized members and falling.

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How did we get from singular ha-Elohim (God) to plural ha-Elohim (judges)?

by I_love_Jeff in

read exodus 22:6-8

jps tanakh : 6 when a man gives money or goods to another for safekeeping, and they are stolen from the man’s house if the thief is caught, he shall pay double; 7 if the thief is not caught, the owner of the house shall come near (נקרב) to god (האלהים) that he has not laid hands on the other’s property.

8 in all charges of misappropriation pertaining to an ox, an ***, a sheep, a garment, or any other loss, whereof one party alleges, “this is it” the case of both parties shall come before god (האלהים): he whom god (אלהים ) declares guilty (ַיְר ִשי ֻףן) shall pay double to the other.

Crazyguy

I think the early Israelites were of course Canaanites so they worshipped the same pantheon of gods. The Elohim were those gods. There even a mention of three men like guys talking to Abraham in Genesis and the it says he seen god. Yhvh may have been a symbol for the group not just one. There is more then one scholar that believes this or that the YHWH meant the power of the gods.

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what is the craziest book the dubbers ever published?

by dogon in

so i was wondering what book is the nuttiest they ever printed?

i know there are several in contention for first place but which is your vote for no 1?

also if you don't mind post a bit of what is in the book you pick to show why you picked it.

Crazyguy

The FinishMystery

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How did we get from singular ha-Elohim (God) to plural ha-Elohim (judges)?

by I_love_Jeff in

read exodus 22:6-8

jps tanakh : 6 when a man gives money or goods to another for safekeeping, and they are stolen from the man’s house if the thief is caught, he shall pay double; 7 if the thief is not caught, the owner of the house shall come near (נקרב) to god (האלהים) that he has not laid hands on the other’s property.

8 in all charges of misappropriation pertaining to an ox, an ***, a sheep, a garment, or any other loss, whereof one party alleges, “this is it” the case of both parties shall come before god (האלהים): he whom god (אלהים ) declares guilty (ַיְר ִשי ֻףן) shall pay double to the other.

Crazyguy

There is some context that the word shaddai meant breasts insinuating that the mountains were the breasts of the world.

And coldsteel you may be on to something because many of the pantheons had a trinity or more then one god being all in one so to speak.

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Can the dead hear?

by AmyWatson916 in

the "what does the bible really teach?

" book says we cannot speak to the dead (page 64) and that the dead do not hear (page 58) but on page 68 the book has jesus talking to a dead man and the dead man apparently hearing and responding.

the same thing happens on page 69 when peter talks to a dead woman and the dead woman apparently hears and responds.

Crazyguy

What about when Saul used a spirit medium to call up Samuel from the underworld then had a conversation with him.

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How did we get from singular ha-Elohim (God) to plural ha-Elohim (judges)?

by I_love_Jeff in

read exodus 22:6-8

jps tanakh : 6 when a man gives money or goods to another for safekeeping, and they are stolen from the man’s house if the thief is caught, he shall pay double; 7 if the thief is not caught, the owner of the house shall come near (נקרב) to god (האלהים) that he has not laid hands on the other’s property.

8 in all charges of misappropriation pertaining to an ox, an ***, a sheep, a garment, or any other loss, whereof one party alleges, “this is it” the case of both parties shall come before god (האלהים): he whom god (אלהים ) declares guilty (ַיְר ִשי ֻףן) shall pay double to the other.

Crazyguy

Elohim is plural meaning gods. Most people's in and around the Jews worshiped many gods. The Jews were no different. I believe as monotheism was eventually pushed some of the words changed meaning. Another example is the same word is often translated now to the word Angels. This is a Greek idea and concept. Again in most cases the same Elohim word is used and in other cases words meaning sons of god or messengers is more accurate , yet again today the word Angel is used.

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WT NY sells of more property / land

by darkspilver in

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what was it that wt sold here??.

river-to-river trail to provide a pedestrian route to gunks.

the open space institute (osi), a new york environmental conservation group dedicated to protecting and enhancing recreational access to local landscapes... purchased the plot of land between new paltz and the mountains from watchtower society of new york, a jehovah’s witnesses group, for $2.1 million.

Crazyguy

Fire sale is right, there not many JWs left.

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accosted to day down the high steet

by jookbeard in

was merrily walking down my local high street this morning when a lady approached me and than told me not to worry i'm not a jw, i said dont worry i used to be one and she was astounded and we went into a full blown doctrinal biblical discussion , she was representing her local baptist church, i really shot her away with my knowledge and she agreed she's never met someone like me before , she said that i would still need to repent and and accept jc as my personal saviour etc blah blah and that the devil was pleased that i'd accepted a path of atheism , i said you think the devil is directing people to atheism, i said you dont think the devil would be wanting people to be joining devil worshipping groups, occult groups, wiccan/pagan and witch covern groups?

i asked her to direct me to see a physical image of the devil and demons and to direct to to where they reside etc, i asked don't you think demons can manifest themselves in the form of humans?

she agreed, i then said where are they?