Posts by Crazyguy

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Comparing Total Numbers Baptized During the 1990s and the Last Ten Years:

by steve2 in

sometimes, comparing raw numbers provides a more clear-cut numerical picture of growth or otherwise than percentages.

below are the numbers for peak publishers (rounded off so that 4,1 represents more than 4,100,000) for each year throughout the 1990s and those for the last ten years.. year: peak* baptisms.

* peak publishers abbreviated - simply to show annual baptisms in relation to peak publishers.. the main point: .

Crazyguy

I don't believe these numbers for one minute. They show continued growth and pretty consistent, problem is these are baptisms of people already publishers and what about all the ones that leave or die each year. I'm mean just think about all the children in the halls counted as publishers then leaving the cult when they later can, that percentage is huge, but it never shows up in the numbers!

I believe the numbers have been monipulated since 1977 or about that time not to continue to show how many left after the 1975 debacle. They started lying back then and never stopped.

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Ireland

by Lostandfound in

on another of ,wifibandits posts of letters, one from ibsa london and one from watchtwer ireland with.

wicklow address which we viewed on google earth looks to be a sizeable and modern facility for ireland, question is, am i right that the irish branch closed or is it still operating ?.

Crazyguy

Another cult may buy it.

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Study with an Elder - propose a question.

by CitizenofEarth in

hello there.. as some of you might remember i am keeping my facade up by "studying" with an elder.

this study however is more of a session where i put hard questions about the org, doctrine and so on, on the table.

the time has come for the next session in a couple of days, and i have quite frankly lost the will to keep digging up things that just shouldn't be happening.

Crazyguy

Ask if god is directing their organization how is it that they still have their blood doctrine since science has proven that in every drop of human breast milk theres roughly 1 million white blood cells? Either breast milk is an abomination or their organization is wrong and not directed by god?

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Latest son of thunder video on YouTube and the 07 letter to the elders.

by Crazyguy in

in his video he mentions an elders letter sent to germany in 07 , i believe.

in this letter if i'm understanding it correctly the elders are being instructed to send most of any information on hand about child abuse in their congregation to headquarters and any thing else they have at home or in their personal possession to destroy it.

this seams to be the most obvious case of wt telling their elders to destroy information.

Crazyguy

Finally glad we're discussing this letter, after listening to it word for word on Mike and Kim 's YouTube channel I'm not so sure it's genuine. It sounds a bit different and more blunt then others ones we know were from the WT, of course this letter came off of a German website similar to JWfacts.com but in the German language. I may try to contact the person hosting this website and see if there's anyway to authenticate the letter.

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Latest son of thunder video on YouTube and the 07 letter to the elders.

by Crazyguy in

in his video he mentions an elders letter sent to germany in 07 , i believe.

in this letter if i'm understanding it correctly the elders are being instructed to send most of any information on hand about child abuse in their congregation to headquarters and any thing else they have at home or in their personal possession to destroy it.

this seams to be the most obvious case of wt telling their elders to destroy information.

Crazyguy

John Davis , if you look at my first post it was asking questions concerning this letter talked about on a YouTube channel, I wasn't assuming it a real letter or anything . I made this thread so it could be discussed. THIS thread is not about me or my credibility, it's whether this letter is credible and iF so is it the most balatant example of the cult trying to cover up child abuse?! Please let's just concentrate on this!

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Latest son of thunder video on YouTube and the 07 letter to the elders.

by Crazyguy in

in his video he mentions an elders letter sent to germany in 07 , i believe.

in this letter if i'm understanding it correctly the elders are being instructed to send most of any information on hand about child abuse in their congregation to headquarters and any thing else they have at home or in their personal possession to destroy it.

this seams to be the most obvious case of wt telling their elders to destroy information.

Crazyguy

Ok for all newbies I've been on this forum for about 4 years. Also Im on my phone and don't have the link to son of thunders last video but he's the one that brought it out.

Again I'm asking if this is the most blatant letter sent to the elders that has been exposed , and sure it would be great if there was confirmation on the validity of the letter.

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Latest son of thunder video on YouTube and the 07 letter to the elders.

by Crazyguy in

in his video he mentions an elders letter sent to germany in 07 , i believe.

in this letter if i'm understanding it correctly the elders are being instructed to send most of any information on hand about child abuse in their congregation to headquarters and any thing else they have at home or in their personal possession to destroy it.

this seams to be the most obvious case of wt telling their elders to destroy information.

Crazyguy

In his video he mentions an elders letter sent to Germany in 07 , I believe. In this letter if I'm understanding it correctly the elders are being instructed to send most of any information on hand about child abuse in their congregation to headquarters and any thing else they have at home or in their personal possession to destroy it. This seams to be the most obvious case of WT telling their elders to destroy information. Am I wrong on this? Other letters I've seen seam to be less obvious. Again am I wrong? This letter may need to be discussed in more detail here.

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Jupiter protects the earth... another example of intellectual dishonesty and an argument against design

by cognisonance in

i'm taking a university astronomy course, and i must say it's really fun to read about this field.

anyway, i remember the jws used to use jupiter (and probably still do) as an example for how unique and special our solar system is (and thus designed) -- namely, that jupiter protects the earth from astroids, comets, and meteors.

convincing if one doesn't know any better, especially circa 1994 when jupiter stepped in front of a comet for us... but this isn't the full story!

Crazyguy

Every time an meteor hits the earth we are reminded that no ones watching over us. When a bigger one come close to hitting the ground like in Russia a few years ago or even worse the one that exploded in east Russian in the early 20th century, it becomes even obvious to the believers of god that he's just in their imagination.

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Watchtower study today - best practice in word

by Gorbatchov in

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due to family reasons gorby was present today.. the watchtower study was about refugee's.. how to treat refugee's, jw and non believers, and help them spiritual, not financial.

nothing new.. what i mentioned is the juridical message underneath the whole story.

don't talk politics, listen to government regulations etc.. most bizar is that a whole congregation that normaly avoid giving any aid to people in need, this morning gave the best practice in word about what to do with refugee's.. if the subject was not that serious, this hypocracy could be funny.

Crazyguy

This cult with these kind of teachings just shows that their not just a bunch of delusional idiots thinking thier working for gods organization, they are obviously just snake oil sales men wanting nothing more then money and they'll even take it from the needy!!

This also reminds me of back at 9/11 , when total chaos was going on the JWs showed up with tracts. It was such a joke and they'll realized it so many went and got bottled water and where giving it to the victims . Their pathetic completely pathetic!!!

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Tacoma Dome Conventions

by Lynnie in

so i went to visit my jw aging mother this week (i've been df'd for 40 years) and she told me she needs to give the people who are taking her to the convention $10 each day of the convention to cover gas?

my uber elder cousin told her she needs to do this!!!

wtf?

Crazyguy

The parking lot scam worked like this. The Borg had negotiated with the city of Tacoma a massive cheap rate. The city then said since we're giving you this reduced rate if you charge for parking we want it. The Borg agreed, except a year or so later the cult instructed the congregations to collect the money before hand at the Kingdom Halls and each member that paid would get a colored piece of paper to put on their dash showing the attendants that they had paid for parking at the hall. The cult had hoped that by doing it this way the city would never find out that the cult was collecting for parking, but a high up elder or CO in the area felt bad so he informed the city, of course he was dfd!

On a side note, when my daughter became very ill and needed help my wife was trying to raise money anyway she could and some of the people from the cult donated money , but to my knowledge not none elder in her congregation gave one red cent!