and if the name jehovah is that important why is it that jesus christ never use that name in a record of scriptures?.
A second century BC historian can't remember his, wrote that the God of the Jews was Helios. Archeology shows that many things in the Bible were just plain made up stories or legends
It has also been shown that the original god of the Israelites was the Canaanite God El then it changed to Baal Hadad with all the atributes of El being added to Baal including his wives Asherah and Anat. So again by the time you get to the New Testament it's anyone's guess who or what the yhwh represents.
as per barbara anderson's post two months ago - today, wednesday 16 november 2016, in an historic landmark, the barcelonian based newspaper el periódico's website has published the first ever publicly reported case of child sexual abuse within the jehovah's witnesses in spain.. a penal code was introduced in spain in 1995, which specified an age of consent of 12 for all sexual acts, this was then raised to 13 in 1999. currently, under a new law which came into effect on 1 july 2015, the age of consent in spain is 16, which rises to 18 if there is deception or abuse of a recognized position of trust, authority or influence over the minor.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ages_of_consent_in_europe#spain.
jehovah's witness in spain were forbidden from public manifestations of faith until they where legally recognized in the country on friday 10 july 1970, in accordance with the religious liberty law of 1967.. at the time of legal recognition there were some 11,041 active jw's in spain which had a population then of just over 32 million (a ratio of 1-in-2,908 ).. in the following two years 144 kingdom halls were legalized and inaugurated, and the number of active jw's increased by 42% to 15,668 with the memorial attended by some 40,000.. at the time it was claimed that the jw's were the second-largest religious group in the country (second only to the catholics).. after 230 years, spain abolished compulsory military service in 2001.. today there are 109,457 active jw's in spain which has a current population 46,439,864 (a ratio 1-in-417 - to compare, the usa ratio is currently 1-in-261 ).. under the heading a religious organization under investigation, el periódico has published the following three articles:los testigos de jehová a una niña violada: "si lo cuentas, te quedarás sin paraíso".
una mujer de 29 años denuncia que fue agredida sexualmente y coaccionada para silenciarlo hace 21 años.
Thier excuse that these claims are orchestrated by the devil, Bull crap!!
I personally knew a young woman senior in high school that was date raped by another senior in her school. This guy wanted to be with her and she wasn't interested but he acted as if he was interested in the religion. So one of the elders from her hall studied with him and she was told to be nice to him.
Later he raped her, she got pregnant from her first sexual experience but she didn't go to the elders for about 4 months. It's very common for female victims not to go to the police or any authority do to shame and other feelings. She did finally go because she was pregnant.
The loving elders in all thier compassion dfd her!! Devilish lie nope, I was thier first hand as close as a friend can be and helped her the best I could even after she was dfd!!!
and if the name jehovah is that important why is it that jesus christ never use that name in a record of scriptures?.
I think many here are missing the reality of it. Iesous (Jesus) was a created god modeled originally after Serapis which he also was modeled after several gods ones of Greek and Egyptian origin. So who are you going to call his father. Who was the father of Osiris or Zeus or Helios? Yes the Jews may have written some of the old testaments and even some of the new so do we call the father of Iesous El, but that wouldn't go over to well with the Greeks or the Egyptians would it? And since the New Testament wasn't put together or in many cases the books of the New Testament were not even written until 300-400-500 years after the story of Jesus what do they call his father, Chronos, AmenRa? Or since this is a new religion trying to gain as many converts as possible in the Roman Empire maybe they need a new name? Or better yet maybe they don't mention his name and edit the old writings and take out any name of a god that would make it specific to one group of people?
and if the name jehovah is that important why is it that jesus christ never use that name in a record of scriptures?.
has anyone noticed the wt's most recent shell-game revisionism in the november study tractazine, relating to the shifting of its "babylonish captivity" doctrine, from a 3 1/2-year period around the ww 1 years, to a period now spanning about 16 centuries, or from the 4th century (constantine's legal recognition of christianity) to 1919?.
Maybe they are moving away from the importance of 1914 to it's all about 1919?
been lurking since early this year.
there are many of us out there (at least in this area, central u.s.) who are waking up and crossing the line to talk to each other about it.
in our area, several elders, ministerial servants and pioneers are actively and openly sharing info with each other daily.
When I woke up I too thought I was alone in my area. I helped to wake up a friend and then through him I started to realize how many others have left the cult. Most left because of the way they were treated or saw how others were treated. I think these awakening are starting a snow ball effect.
People are still going to allow loved ones to talk with them and hear some of what they have to say. No matter how hard they try it can't be stopped. The right placed phrase or sentence sometimes is all that's needed by a friend or loved one to start someone down the road to freedom.
I think some of the things being said by the cult leader is yes a disclaimer against lawsuits but also an attempt to make excuses so people will cut them a brake and stay. The cat is out of the bag though and thousands are leaving with very few to replace them the cult leaders are worried!
i have a beard.
i spend a month on vacation with no worry from the congregation overseas of course.
i grew a full beard now and with glasses i finally have posted my picture on facebook og me... next to half life 2 cover showing i look like gordan freeman lol.
I'm shocked you still go and didn't you once say that the elders knew you were an agnostic? How's that going for you???
my mom has been extensively texting me, trying to argue that the un ngo scandal is not a big deal and that the child abuse scandal is to instigate the great tribulation.
even worse, she kept saying how great it is that the gb is imperfect and fallible and that teaching changes all the time.
maybe it was aggravation or impatience, but i finally just snapped and told her, "it's a cult, mom.".
Yeah I would of responded if it wasn't a cult then why are they so successful in getting parents to hate thier kids just because they don't agree, didn't Jesus say not to judge and to have love for everyone even your enemies and those that didn't greet people were just like tax collects. So the fact that you mom treat me this way is proof you don't follow the teachings of Christ just teachings of men . Didnt Paul say don't be slaves of men?
i have argued with several jws who are now being trained to deny the org ever said the end in 75, what is your approach?.
And like someone posted above if they the GB are the true faithful and discreet slave, chosen to be Gods only channel that truth from god comes though, then why is most of the crap that they have taught over the years been ideas and teachings from other churches. 1975 was from Armstrong, Pyramidolgy was originally an idea going back as far as Isaac Newton, invisible presence came from Mrs white and the beginnings of the seventh Adventist day church.
End times dates from the book of Daniel and the end of the gentile times came from a book written by an Englishman in London before 1844 (can't remember the title) . So much of what they teach as thier bible truths came from somebody else, I'm not even sure if they ever had an original thought.
it has been 18 years since i decided to leave and fade away, and at that time i was feeling a lot of pressure that i wasn't doing enough, didn't fit in with the folks in my congregation, and was unhappy in my young jw marriage.
needless to say i recklessly went and had an affair that left me pregnant.
i did not know what to do, i panicked and got major anxiety.
If your still a bible believer then just read the sermon on the mount and maybe a couple of small books like Ephesians and Galatians you'll soon realize that thier teachings seemed to be all about love especially those taught by the character they call Jesus. Wasn't about works Ephesians 2:8-9 not judgment not doing things for religious leaders or having to follow any man but one simple thing , Have love for one another!!!!
