Another point that should be brought out is how much Jesus contradicts the teachings of jevovah.
Crazyguy
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Jehovah God and Jesus Christ the difference in the "Old Testament " and the "New Testament"
by smiddy inwhen you compare all the communications jehovah god had with humans whether it was by angels ,dreams ,or prophets as well as his intervention in human affairs when it suited him and their are many examples in the old testament to look at for about 4000 years .
the same cannot be said for jesus christ as king of kings to sit on the throne to rule over the earth for a thousand years.
in one sense he was king of christians 2000 years ago in another sense according to jw`s he was enthroned in 1914-18 for the next 1000 years.. whether you believe he was king over christians on his ascencion to heaven or his enthronement in 1914-18 for 2000 + years we have not had any communication from either god jehovah or christ jesus in any form one way or another.for the past 2000 years.. for the first 4000 years you couldnt shut jehovah up ,and the next 2000 years you dont here a beep out of jehovah or christ jesus.. for jw apologists when god gave a ruling/decree in the old testament how many times did he adjust /redefine/change what he said using the excuse "the light gets brighter and brighter" ?
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Not very zealous as before
by anointed1 inwhat i sense from the conversations of my family members and relatives who are jws is that at least some jws are not as zealous before with regard to the major subjects such as “sanctification of god’s name,” “vindication of his sovereignty” etc.
they begin to feel that such subjects are imaginary issues.. this is a good sign.
it shows people are worried about their own day-to-day worries.
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Crazyguy
I wouldn't say that Smiddy, still a lot of ignorant people believing everything thier told.
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How much money people usually donate to WT ?
by Bardamu ini grew up in the org and never got baptised, however i was wondering recently about how much money my family and old friends are wasting in all that.
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i remember of course never talking in amounts, that it was important to give from what you can not what you have etc but i admit i have no clue how much the average witness gives (say in % of their income).. i'm sure it varies greatly, i'd love to hear what you guys have to say..
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Crazyguy
It's funny I only really started donating just before I woke up. Others I know never really gave any. It seems as though the ones that gave the most are the older ones like older woman that had an excess of money maybe do to the death of thier worldly husband that not only made money while alive but had an actual life insurance policy .
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Just a warning to keep on the watch!
by Crazyguy ini was watching a documentary on the massacre at waco the cult by david karesh.
one of the former members that survived, she wasn't at the compound at the time of the fire, said that david had told his followers that they would die being persecuted.
that in the end they would die and then be taken to heaven.
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Crazyguy
I was watching a documentary on the massacre at Waco the cult by David Karesh. One of the former members that survived, she wasn't at the compound at the time of the fire, said that David had told his followers that they would die being persecuted. That in the end they would die and then be taken to heaven. This former follower said she was surprised to see any one running out of the compound when it was one fire. She also said it didn't surprise her that no children with thier mothers survived again do to the teaching that they would die then go to heaven as righteous followers getting thier reward.
We must always be diligent to what the cult of JWs say and print and look for signs this evil cult is heading the same way. We can never assume because it's a large cult that this couldn't happen!
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Their lamps are going out.
by biblexaminer ineveryone here has read mt.
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i have mentioned this illustration in conversation with several dubbies, to draw attention to their foolishness in following watchtower's false reasoning.. in the illustration, there are two kinds of virgins, or people.
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Crazyguy
Well when your told most of your life that the end will come before a generation of people die, it's god promise and it doesn't come true your left kinda hanging.
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Genesis Lifetimes and Numerology
by schnell inout of morbid curiosity, i would like to here reduce the digits of the lifetimes stated in genesis chapter 5. it is clear that no human being has ever lived that long, and perhaps there is some numerological meaning to these numbers rather than literal history.
7 after he became the father of enosh, seth lived 807 years and had other sons and daughters.
10 after he became the father of kenan, enosh lived 815 years and had other sons and daughters.
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Crazyguy
There maybe some truth to your idea of numbers meaning something in the Bible. The number 40 has connections to the Sumerian god Enki. The Adam story is also Sumerian in its origins. If there is a connection it's probably something connected to Sumeria or Babylon over Egypt.
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Which Religions Forbid Outside Research?
by AnonVet inmy definition of a cult is just this:if you are not allowed to research outside of your religion's published sources, you are in a cult.what other religions (cults) are there that absolutely forbid outside research on threat of punishment / shunning?
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Crazyguy
Mormons, Scientology.
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Genesis Lifetimes and Numerology
by schnell inout of morbid curiosity, i would like to here reduce the digits of the lifetimes stated in genesis chapter 5. it is clear that no human being has ever lived that long, and perhaps there is some numerological meaning to these numbers rather than literal history.
7 after he became the father of enosh, seth lived 807 years and had other sons and daughters.
10 after he became the father of kenan, enosh lived 815 years and had other sons and daughters.
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Crazyguy
I'm with Barold Bonds , I want what your smoking!
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Cyprus JW's Military Service
by snare&racket ini work with a nurse who served for 2 years in the army of cyprus as is compulsory in that country.
i happened to ask about jw's and their consequential punishment for not doing it.
he laughed and stated that since 2009 they have to do it and that he personally knew several that 'served.
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Crazyguy
We need to do some digging on this subject because thier still making a big deal about the ones in South Korea that go to prison
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Why the need for 144000 imperfect humans to Rule with Christ Jesus for 1000 years ? Is he incapable of ruling by himself ?
by smiddy indoes this make any sense whatsoever ?
isnt jesus christ the king ?why the need for 144000 king priests to help him ?.
is he not up for the job?
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Crazyguy
Iown mylife, it's my understanding that your not to far off but your using the wrong word. The one that has a different meaning is the word "reigning " this word can mean other things then ruling like a government or king.