Posts by Crazyguy

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How much do you think the internet has hurt JW growth?

by HereIgo in

the internet is what helped bring me and so many others out of this evil organization or at least confirmed our doubts.

i have to say, i have seen quite a few youtube videos recently of ex jw's secretly recording their interactions inside of different congregations, halls, etc and see how empty the halls are!

so many people comment on how the attendance is so low, far more emptier than when i was in 6 years ago, even on a weekday meeting.

Crazyguy

Slimboyfat, great post because you hit the nail on the head. Their retention sucks and I've noticed that if your in a congregation with lots of social people doing lots of things it may work out better for the cult at keeping ones in longer. But in all reality a lot of congregations have little going on members are not that friendly lots of cliques etc. Those congregations chase their members away .

cults truly have to keep their members in a vacuum or they lose them. Your going to hear more and more the cult telling its members not to watch tv go on the internet look at any info etc.

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The Finished Mystery

by Jules Saturn in

hey just wanted to ask if anyone here knows where i could find a legit copy of the finished mystery, one of charles taze russell's books if i'm not mistaken?

there's a couple of older brothers and sisters that i know, you think it's a good idea to ask if they have a copy?

i've seen some on amazon and even on ebay but again not entirely sure if they're legit or not.

Crazyguy

It was written after Russell died supposedly Rutherford wrote it but he wrote that he was being guided by Russell who was one of the angels spoken about in the book of Revelations.

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Unacknowledged!

by Awakenednow in

so...i watched the new netflix movie, "uncknowledged" by dr steven greer today fierce hearing to dj's discussing it on the radio, minds blown.

it makes a strong case for ufo's and totally screws up jw doctrine about the earth having the only intelligent life in the universe, as it is where the issue of universal sovereignty is played out and decided....the gb will need to do some fast talking.

it will be fascinating to blow some jw minds with this.

Crazyguy

Didn't listen will check it out but the thought that this planet is the only one with any intelligent life is just plain stupid!

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Will hurricane Harvey infuse the WTBT$ with more money? Or cost them more money?

by exjwlemming in

in the past, i have known many brothers that had trekked down to the southern us to perform relief work on behalf of the wtbt$.

they return as heros.

they shared the repairing and rebuilding of kh and the property of fellow believers.

Crazyguy

I think they want local elders or Ldc brothers running the show down there. They then can get the insurance checks and have local brothers do all the work. Done, maybe they didn't take you up on your offer because they hadn't thought of the scam yet or they didn't want to expose themselves in some way by using you?.

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Stabed

by Akid48 in

my family has been nice acting after a family member eavesdropped on me and learn that i don't like jws any more.but how mad and the feeling of getting backstabed when i had my hole family got mad at me at one time.i love my family and understand why they acted that way but that feeling of getting backstabed never goes away i have tryed to put the feeling in back of my mind but he always comes back when i talk to a family..

Crazyguy

Remember their victims too.

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Signs that the last days really are here

by Half banana in

not for the world but for the watchtower cult.. .

what happens to organizations which are on the decline?

what are the signs of impending doom?.

Crazyguy

Thier growth is done that's the good news. As the ones from the early 1970s that came in die off the numbers will continue to go down. Thier already lying about thier numbers but as the sell off of kingdoms halls continue they'll become less and less relevant. Even now most stay because of family and friends. The good news is now we're seeing entire families leaving at once not like in the past when only the black sheep would leave or just the victims.

The snow ball is picking up steam and is getting larger as it rolls down the hill.

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Solomon's gold mines called a myth but there's one so-called prophecy that always makes me stop and think

by Isambard Crater in

the authenticity of the old testament account of solomon is being called into question in the news media:.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/king-solomons-fabulous-hidden-gold-mines-are-a-myth-historian-says-194663/.

for the most-part, i don't really want to believe the bible as true, certainly not the j.w version including their stubbornness over 607 and 1914. but there's one prophecy that always makes me stop and wonder if maybe some of the bible was inspired by god, if he or she exists.

Crazyguy

Go back and read about Solomon s gold mines and his building of the temple. See according to all the measurements how small the temple would of been . How 10,000 people per day could work on such a small building with 150,000 support staff and yet it still take 7 years. Figure out how much gold and silver was to be there and how impossible that was. Then compare the temple and it's construction and ask yourself why the god of the universe temple looks just like some of those built in Egypt and Arn Dara Syria?

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The Real Ark of the Covenant May Have Housed Pagan Gods - Haaretz

by fulltimestudent in

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according to the bible, the biblical ark of the covenant contained the ten commandments tablets, but some israeli archaeologists have a different view.. haaretz media site publishes the story:.

the real ark of the covenant may have housed pagan gods.

the holy ark was likely kept in jerusalem for much less time than the bible tells us.

Crazyguy

The exodus Moses story has a lot of elements of Egyptian god mythology in it. Moses is told gods name is I am that I am, yet the word were told is the word for "that" is very similar to one of the names of Osiris. Osiris was also born or came from MT Sinai . The Ten Commandments mostly come from the 42 negative confessions of the Osirisian cult. Moses after seeing god has what would seem like two horns or rays of light coming from his head, this could be a reference to the God Amun.

Another thing to note is the ark is very much an Egyptian Bark. A box the Egyptians used to carry around certain gods from one temple to the next during festivals etc.. We will probably never know who wrote this exodus story but it's a pretty god fairy tale of a story as long as you don't take it seriously.

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No shame in being apostate

by venus in

the one who is standing away is apostate (literally "to stand off," from apo- "away from" + stenai "to stand").

ironically, proponents of untruth may call truth-seekers as apostates, thus making the term meaningless.. for example, paul, the greatest of all apostles, taught untruth (stood away from truth) [see his main teaching in romans 5:12-21] even though he had known the following truths:.

1) all humans did not become sinners through one man (genesis 5:24; job 1:8; psalm 18:23; ezekiel 14:14 and compare habakkuk 2:4), hence there was no need for anyone to pay ransom.. 2) in the old testament, the messiah refers to a “prince of peace” who literally rules from jerusalem, not merely anointed to the office to do the work in some distant future and get killed before that future occurs.

Crazyguy

There's so many problems with the Bible it's just plain crazy! There's evidence in the earliest writings like the book of John that Jesus didn't die . For example the piercing of his side was added from Mathews wasn't there in earlier texts.

Older bibles also do have jesus ascending to heaven in the gospels making the book of acts very suspect. Earlier Old Testament writting pointing to a messiah were of a conquere not a man to be slaughtered. Most of Mathews quotes about Jesus fulfilling an Old Testament prophecies are wrong either they were not a prophecy or they were a prophecy about the nation of Israel not a messiah.

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Watchtower today

by Gorbatchov in

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shame to see our multi bilion property and media corporation asks for the last coins of an indian child, the coconuts from a sri lanka man and the last olive oil of a greek poor.. message to the poor is: no money, then your other belongings are belonging to jehova (read:jw.org).. at the end of the article i can click on a donate button and get a visa / mastercard sign om my screen.. follow the money: were are the property bilions?.

g..

Crazyguy

They literally give those examples??