Posts by rocketman

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A question for those who believe in noahs ark

by bohm in

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many times in the recent weeks, i have heard statements to the effect of "you dont understand biblical science", "science proove the bible right" etc.

i want to begin by saying i really like it when people make those kind of broad, sweeping statements because when each party in a discussion come clean about what they believe to be true, you can easier get down to a factual discussion.. and i really do want to understand biblical science.

i has spend a long, long time reading cuts-and-pastes on this site, and i have read a large part of the content on aig.

rocketman

I would guess that Flood geologists would have serious problems trying to respond to this thread, which involves an interesting take on matters - what observed, scientific occurances would a global Flood have predicted? - Like Evolution Theory, or General Relativity, which predicts certain outcomes which should be observable and confirmed by such observation.

So far, only TD has offered an extensive answer, and as his comment suggests, the global Flood would predict occurances that scientists have not observed.

I can't come up with anything either (I'm not a Flood geologist or apologist). To me, it seems that the Flood would predict outcomes that we have not observed, such as the extremely rapid evolution and speciation that TD mentioned.

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For Perry: There was no global flood, so stop looking for Noah's Ark

by BurnTheShips in

forget about noahs ark; there was no worldwide flood.

many people have contacted me about the recent claims by a group called noahs ark ministries international.1 the evangelical organization claims to have discovered noahs ark.2 i have responded on several occasions to these dubious claims on my blog.3 and still, this group has stood behind their claim,4 insisting that what they have found is real based largely on the belief that because the bible says the flood and the ark are historical, it must be so.

so, instead of addressing their spurious claims yet again, i thought i would approach the issue from a different angle: forget about noahs ark; there was no world-wide flood.. the worldwide flood described in genesis 6-9 is not historical, but rather a combination of at least two flood stories, both of which descended from earlier mesopotamian flood narratives.

rocketman

The Flood not being global or being a story doesn't make Jesus (or Peter) a "liar", any more than his relating the Rich Man and Lazarus story would make him a liar. We all know there was no "Rich Man" and no beggar named Lazarus. We also can easily see the exaggeration (hyperbole) in the parable. But unless you believe in a place of fiery torment, you know that this whole story is just a contrivance that Jesus used to make a point. And even if you do believe in a place of fiery torment, this is still just a story.

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For Perry: There was no global flood, so stop looking for Noah's Ark

by BurnTheShips in

forget about noahs ark; there was no worldwide flood.

many people have contacted me about the recent claims by a group called noahs ark ministries international.1 the evangelical organization claims to have discovered noahs ark.2 i have responded on several occasions to these dubious claims on my blog.3 and still, this group has stood behind their claim,4 insisting that what they have found is real based largely on the belief that because the bible says the flood and the ark are historical, it must be so.

so, instead of addressing their spurious claims yet again, i thought i would approach the issue from a different angle: forget about noahs ark; there was no world-wide flood.. the worldwide flood described in genesis 6-9 is not historical, but rather a combination of at least two flood stories, both of which descended from earlier mesopotamian flood narratives.

rocketman

If the Flood were merely a story (or a local occurance) I would suppose that Jesus would still refer to it, much as we might refer to the Good Samaritan story in order to make a very important point about being a true neighbor.

Whether there was an actual good Samaritan or not is kind of besides the point - it's the story that resonates. Just because Jesus made reference to the Flood does not in itself make the Flood a historical occurance, nor does it make it global. Could the Flood merely be a story, which Jesus pointed to in order to make a point?

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Today is my 2yr Anniversary of being OUT of JWs - honoring it with a letter! (long)

by babygirl30 in

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today is my 2yr anniversary since being df'd - and my life has changed a lot!!!

this is a letter i wrote to my parents...i did see/talk to them in feb when i had my surgery, but of course as it goes, now that i'm 'better' - they are back to shunning me.

so this was sent to them both, so that they understood that despite all the jw bull ish, and how they are treating me now - i'm ok and happy!

rocketman

This is part of the healing process in moving on from the religion. And your therapist is really helping you to determine your course in life without worrying what other will think.

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does their text for today make sense to anyone?

by booby in

*** text for june-30-10 ***.

wednesday, june 30. he himself well knows the formation of us, remembering that we are dust.-ps.

103:14.. jehovah does not expect us to be perfect in the absolute sense.

rocketman

What's hard to understand are the words of Jesus at Matt 5:48. Understood in a literal sense and lifted from the context, they don't fit with human experience. In context, Jesus is discussing the elevated standard of loving one's enemies, not just their neighbors. He's taking the Law of Moses and expanding on it while amplifying the underlying principal - in effect, one must do more than just love those who love them.

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Can a Brother wear a Bolo Tie and give a Talk at the KH?

by zadok777 in

a bolo tie is a western look.

i remember seeing brothers wear western cut sports coats...wear cowboy booths...would a bolo tie be ok today?

i know the no hair look passed.

rocketman

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Are Men As "Manly" As They Used To Be?

by minimus in

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maybe it's me but i see more males act less "manly".

i dunno..

rocketman

My Dominatrix says I'm very manly.

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Video Review of New Brochure "The Origin of Life"

by Shepherd Book in

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i recently completed making this video:.

the origin of life.

it's a quick look at the watchtower's new brochure.

rocketman

Interesting video. The part about God coming from a single cell (obviously sarcastic) seemed a bit corny, but otherwise mostly well done.

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DC 2010 Release - The Origin of Life and its many misquotes

by Designer Stubble in

looking up all the references is a lot of work - one of the reasons nobody normally verifies these, but trust the writers.

as you will see, the writers are banking on this, but it is not a good thing to trust the wtbts writers.

please find the bibliography worked out for quotes 38-51, covering the heading "what about human evolution".. interesting is that many quotes are from the [u]preface[/u] of books, where the authors honestly explain the difficulties and assumptions related to evolutionary science.. [b]what about human evolution?[/b].

rocketman

Good research DS. Obviously, the WTS has learned nothing about honest writing since the release of the Creation book.

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JWs District Convention 2010 Drawn Closer to Jehovah. My reflections

by onemore in

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september will mark my first year out of the watch towers darkness (pun intended).

i embarked on my full blown search for truth about the truth in april 2009, and by september of that same year i was convinced the organization was no different than any other religion; but i was wrong again.

because if there were like any other christian denomination, such as the baptists, methodists, presbyterians, lutherans, etc...it would have been a lot easier to endure sitting in their meetings, listening to their rhetoric, and engaging in some of their activities.

rocketman

If it's a case of "obviously", why did it take the WTS nearly 100 years to figure it out?