paragraph 15: "he vowed that if god gave ammon into jephthah's hand, the first one to come out of the door when he returned home would be jehovah's.
as jephthah returned home from subduing ammon, his daughter came running to meet him.
(judg.
It was not a human sacrifice. Jepthah would have exercised the option of redeeming his daughter by means of a lamb as an offering instead.
The girl weeped over her virginity, which would be perpetual due to her temple service. She wasn't weeping over her untimely death.
there have been a couple of threads about this issue.
if this has been covered, then i am sorry, but:.
the article warns against looking back with fondness for the "good old days" don't they always do that with the "critical times we live in?
Wha happened? great point on the "purple publisher"; and let's not forget the Williams sisters, raking in millions while other jws "decided" not to pursue a career in sports.
this thread could be a saver!.
Some interesting comments...
Being an elder was no picnic, but one good thing I took away was an appreciation for strict confidentiality (though confidentiality was often disregarded by other elders, and I was dismayed to learn how often things ended up becoming publicly known). The upside of this is that now I have several friends who know they can trust me, and as a result, will talk to me about some matters close to their hearts.
Now don't get me wrong - anyone can learn to keep things confidential. Being a jw elder does not necessarily mean that I wouldn't have been a good confidante anyway. But after hearing some pretty crazy stuff and keeping it to myself to this day, it reinforced the inclination I already had to keep things private on behalf of others.
greetings to all this is my new thread dedicated to that most entertaining of decades the 1980s!.
what i propose is to post youtube links to a favourite song and give a brief description and maybe why i liked it.. please feel free to comment and add your own video clips.. i missed out on all the glam of the 80s rock videos as it was considered too worldly to watch for a good jw teenager.. all genres are good but my particular favourite style was the new romantiscism artists.. to start this thread off the first video was made in 1979 ( blown it already i hear you say)no this song set the theme of what was to come in the next decade.. "video killed the radio star"- the buggles 1979. .
first video screened on us mtv.
I liked the 60s and 70s much better. In retrospect though, the 80s have started to appeal to me. Sometimes a decade needs to 'ripen' over time before I can really judge it.
after seeing most of the season unfold, i am going to make my prediction who will be in the super bowl this year.
after seeing the play of most teams i am ready to go out on a limb.. here is the official prediction:.
the super bowl will have the green bay packers vs. the baltimore ravens.
My pre-season pick was Green Bay beating New England. I might as well stick with it, though I have doubts about the Pats due to their defense, which is not a playoff-caliber unit. Aaron Discount Double-Check Rodgers would have a field day should these two teams meet (Rodgers has a field day against just about anybody these days) and I think we'd see a score of something like 45-28, and that's a conservative estimate.
The AFC is more wide-open, in my view, than the NFC. Green Bay looks like a lock barring a Rodgers injury. The Saints could challenge, but the 49ers cannot hang with the Packers. In bad weather, the Niners could turn the game into a grind and possibly get close to upsetting the Packers, but I'm still not picking them.
The Ravens are in some ways a more logical pick in the AFC, and so are the Steelers, than going with the Pats. The Jets, in bad weather, can make a run - they are geared toward winning games in January. But if the Jets, who have played 6 straight playoff games on the road, have to take to the road again, it won't be easy.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/11/opinion/sunday/americans-and-god.html.
Interesting article, with some good points made. Thanks OP for posting.
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JanH and AlanF particularly both were instrumental in writing essays that certainly got me thinking. JanH used to have a blog at Salon called Secular Blasphemy, but he apparently became busy in other pursuits, and I don't think he publishes there any longer.
JanH, as was the case with several other members of what was then JW Discussions, ran afoul of Simon and left the discussion board. In those days, a more Wild-West type atmosphere prevailed at the board. The crux of the issue seemed to be whether the board should be a totally free, no-holds-barred type of board or whether some restraint was necessary due to the concern that the board would become a turn-off to lurking jws who were looking for guidance, as well as to members who did not want to engage in constant arguing that could become personal at times.
Back then, several spin-off boards were created by former JWD members. While the atmosphere may have been more 'free', it was much more contentious, with name-calling common in many threads.
what do you not want this year?
what is on your do not buy me this for christmas list?
i do not want anything from the jane seymour open hearts collection..
In the Open Hearts commercial in which the US Serviceman is talking over the computer with his wife and son, she just seems unconvincing when she says "it's beautiful" when she sees the Open Hearts pendant.
............i'm back!.
been a long time since i posted on here - although i have been 'reading' posts on a regular basis.
feel like i've been away from 'family' for awhile.
Excellent update! Even though we've been in touch, the details of your past year have been very illuminating!
have anyone of you read, the absolutly jaw dropping paragraph in this article about a women who was hit by her husband?
its in page 25 of the 2/15/12 wt study edition (i read the dumbed down version).. .
if there was any question, that the watchtowers stance is for wives to simply take it when their husbands abuse them, this makes it crystal clear.. who the hell is scanning these things before they go to print?
Bookmarked. This is a jaw-dropping thread - except for the fact that, having nearly 40 years of experience with this religion, I can attest, as several of the past quotes already highlighted show, that this horrific tripe is par for the course for the WTS.
This article's "example" of Selma is disgusting. Sadly, it is not at all surprising.
