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  Things that JUST DON'T MATTER . . .

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  don't want this to turn into an irreligous rant, let's try to have a little fun .

  things that just don't matter.

  your neighbours religion.

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  Facebook.

  The WTS obsesses over it. People do too. And for what? And yes, I have a Facebook account.
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  Jan. 15th WT- Go to Meetings to Fight the Blues- Eliminate other Activities

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  our jw contact sent us the " witness only " wt's again and i just had to make a thread on this mind numbing article.

  starting on pg.22 in the jan.15th it deals with " coping with discouragement ".

  it seems lots of jw's are under intense stress these days ( can you blame them ?

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  Once again, as always, they blame jws for the stresses and strains on their lives. 'It can't possibly be us (the WTS)'. You are pursuing unecessary activities, spending too much time on work and recreation!'. More cultish brow-beating.
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  I need a show of hands: who believes the Bible and to what extent?

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'll start off.. i don't believe anything is divine about bible writings.

  i believe there may be some marginal history although not much.

  i think alot of folk tales and regional myths are contained in the old testament.

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  My current take on the Bible can be pretty much summed up by the story of the Good Samaritan...

  It's an enduring illustration/story that makes an interesting and worthwhile point. I've seldom seen/heard arguments over whether there actually was a good Samaritan. The actuality of the characters doesn't seem to be the main point anyway - it's the story, based on what at least could have been an actual occurance (set in a historical backdrop), that resonates.

  Jesus spoke in illustrations; as the Bible implies, he seldom spoke without them. Then why can't the OT also be very illustrative? Why can't the Genesis account of Adam and Eve and the Flood be illustrative rather than fully based on historical occurance? Maybe the OT God YHWH is "speaking" in illustrations, telling us meaningful stories without expecting that we believe such things actually occured. Or perhaps they are loosely based on some actual events - the Flood for example could be based on a significant flood that may have occured in the Mesopotamia area and became the stuff of legend.
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  THE BETHELITE'S REVELATIONS!

  by freskalynn in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this is what is paraphased by an ex-elder who has lots of contacts.. .

  updated: johnny the bethelite's revelations!.

  what follows is not a verbatim transcript but a now updated summary.

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  This one sentence spells doom for this whole "revelation":

  "He doesn’t know for sure, but wonders it they may be for bunkers"
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Take Pride In Being Ignorant

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  witnesses love to say they are in the best school available---the theocratic ministry school.

  witnesses don't want you to express research on a subject when giving a comment during a meeting.

  just read verbatim what is in the paragraph.

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  I often noticed a kind of distrust of people who made educated comments and who asked questions and ventured outside the realm of what was expressly printed in the publications.
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  "Are you In the Truth?"

  by Nickolas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i can't remember the last time i was asked that question because it has been many years.

  nor do i remember my response to the questioner but it no doubt contributed to not being asked the question since.

  are you in the truth?

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  Here's The Truth, as far as I'm concerned:

  I go where the evidence takes me. Sometimes, it takes me to some uncomfortable places. But I have to face that and adjust my thinking accordingly.
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  KM Jan 2011 Family Worship

  by dozy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  there is a big insert in the jan kingdom ministry about the family worship night (which has evolved new capital letters - like governing body.).

  some helpful suggestions include the head of the household putting an agenda on the fridge door a few days ahead for the family to "build excitement and anticipation" (i kid you not.

  ) the provision is compared to the sabbath arrangement as a gift from god.

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  Most jw families didn't bother with the Family Bible Study.

  They've been given a "free" night with the elimination of a separate night for the Bookstudy and they are going to take it, not devote an evening to Family worship. They will do what normal people would do - relax, watch TV, get some work done, play video games, Facebook, whatever.
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  My mom to my daughter: "BD party might be fun but it will make Jah sad"

  by SweetBabyCheezits in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we've allow a little freedom for my jw mom to visit our daughter at lunch at the school since we're df'd now.

  um, because we're idiots, maybe.

  so my daughter tells me this evening that she was chatting with mom at lunch today and mentioned a birthday party she's attending this weekend.

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  I Quit wrote: "Poor little guy. Some children are having a party for another child's special day and Jehovah is feeling sad because this kid is getting more attention than him. Do Jehovah's Witnesses really think this whiney self-centered little cry baby is the right guy to be running the universe?"

  Funniest thing I've read in quite some time!
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  When God breaks his own laws

  by Nickolas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if one assumes that god made the universe it follows that he made it according to a very complex set of physical laws that determine how things work.

  the quest to identify and understand those physical laws is at the very forefront of science and great strides have been made over the past few centuries, in particular during the last century.

  we have known for only a few centuries that the earth rotates on its axis and orbits around the sun along with a number of other planets, more recently that the solar system is located in a radial arm of a spiral galaxy swirling around some enormous black hole.

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  I remember watching the following Star Trek Next Gen episode and wondering about whether God actually might do something similar:

  The USS Enterprise-D is called to Bre'el IV to help them with their moon that is falling out of orbit and threatening the planet. As they are trying to find a way to get the moon back into its orbit, Q suddenly drops in, literally, and Picard jumps to the conclusion that Q is responsible for what is happening to the Bre'el.

  In the episode, Q (stripped of his powers) suggests altering the gravitational constant of the universe, thereby altering the moon's mass. Of course, Enterprise can't do that, but they end up trying to wrap the moon in a warp field and push it. Late in the episode, a restored Q solves the problem in some undisclosed manner.

  Of course, TV is one thing, reality another. But is God so powerful that he could solve the Joshua problem at the snap of a finger? I have my doubts, but if there is a God...
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  Finally the FDS tells us why they made the new song book.

  by life is to short in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the dec 15th wt finally tells us why the new song book.

  who would think it was new light that made them have to change there book but here it is.. paragraph 15 says "as times passes, refinements are made in our understanding of the sciptures.

  proverbs 4:18 says: "the path of the righteous ones is like the bright light that is getting lighter and lighter until the day is firmly established.

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  The problem is that this religion has its own peculiar "language", hence the feel the need to update it. Frankly, I'm not sure where they got the term "New Order" in the first place, since, to my knowledge, no such term appears in the Bible, even in their old green NWT. I remember the term being used extensively during the 60s and 70s especially.